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12481 [lbo-talk] Nader, et al -- rank: 1000

On Aug 6, 2007, at 11:03 PM, Michael Smith wrote: >> That's one vote, and heck, the Dems have been ardent warriors since >> forever. As Bob Dole said, all the wars of the 20th century were >> Democrat wars, except Gulf I which happened after Dole said that. Who >> founded the CIA and incinerated Vietnam? > > Exactly. Doug, I'm having a hard time figuring out which side of the > question you're on. You seem to be making my case for me here. Perhaps > I've faile ...

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Date:	Mon Aug 6 20:54:46 PDT 2007

12482 [lbo-talk] more McWilliams -- rank: 1000

<http://www.columbia.edu/cu/cup/publicity/mcwilliamsqa.pdf> Q: What was the American eating experience like? A: Rough. Very rough. Even wealthy elites, as much as they tried to outgrow the wild and wooly associations of the frontier, found themselves eating food that had been hunted and foraged and stewed in a single pot. Most settlers wanted to replicate the established culinary habits of England. As many cookbooks as they imported, however, they failed to do so, having to settle fo ...

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Date:	Mon Aug 6 19:59:49 PDT 2007

12483 [lbo-talk] Nader, et al -- rank: 1000

On Aug 6, 2007, at 10:43 PM, Michael Smith wrote: > Erm ... the FISA "modernization" act, passed with Democratic help, and > signed this last weekend? That's one vote, and heck, the Dems have been ardent warriors since forever. As Bob Dole said, all the wars of the 20th century were Democrat wars, except Gulf I which happened after Dole said that. Who founded the CIA and incinerated Vietnam? Doug

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Date:	Mon Aug 6 19:53:52 PDT 2007

12484 [lbo-talk] another piece on agriculture -- rank: 1000

[The protagonist, Eric Andrus, is married to Liza's cousin Erica (sic) Hurwitz.] Burlington (Vermont) Free Press - August 2, 2007 Ferrisburgh bakery rises to challenge By Ashley Matthews Free Press Staff Writer FERRISBURGH -- Erik Andrus could've chosen a smoother ride through his pasture on a sunny afternoon, but there's a reason the 35-year- old farmer chose to harvest his wheat using Civil War-era technology. The jolting journey is just part of Andrus' dream to create European artisan brea ...

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Date:	Mon Aug 6 19:48:45 PDT 2007

12485 [lbo-talk] AllHipHop.com interviews Bad Brains about -- rank: 1000

On Aug 6, 2007, at 10:24 PM, wrobert at uci.edu wrote: > It could be that all these > categories are a bit arbitrary when you come down to it, but I say we > enforce them ruthlessly. Ha. I like the spirit of this, but why? Memory is funny, but I don't remember all these distinctions at the time. Doug

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Date:	Mon Aug 6 19:37:03 PDT 2007

12486 [lbo-talk] skepticism on food miles -- rank: 1000

New York Times - August 6, 2007 Food That Travels Well By JAMES E. McWILLIAMS Austin, Tex. THE term food miles how far food has traveled before you buy it has entered the enlightened lexicon. Environmental groups, especially in Europe, are pushing for labels that show how far food has traveled to get to the market, and books like Barbara Kingsolver s Animal, Vegetable, Miracle: A Year of Food Life contemplate the damage wrought by trucking, shipping and flying food from distant part ...

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Date:	Mon Aug 6 19:23:45 PDT 2007

12487 [lbo-talk] AllHipHop.com interviews Bad Brains about -- rank: 1000

On Aug 6, 2007, at 4:28 PM, Angelus Novus wrote: > The origin of the term is chronological, but now it is > a primarily aesthetic designation. Post-punk = Joy > Divison, Gang of Four, Wire, The Pop Group, Public > Image Limited. As I recall, they all seemed to swim in the same ocean - it's just that the bands you list were in the artier wing. Talking Heads, which was very art school from the beginning, played CBGBs at the same time The Ramones did. I saw both of them weeks apart ...

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Date:	Mon Aug 6 19:11:53 PDT 2007

12488 [lbo-talk] Nader, et al -- rank: 1000

On Aug 5, 2007, at 4:25 AM, Charles Peterson wrote: > Actually, I > think there were at least a few trillion dollars worth > of difference, just in terms of that which can be > measured, the real difference is not enumerable. As I keep saying, the political scientists who quantify these things say that the differences between the two parties - in their electoral base and their voting records in Congress - haven't been as wide as they are now in decades, and maybe ever. I'd love to ...

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Date:	Mon Aug 6 19:05:12 PDT 2007

12489 [lbo-talk] AllHipHop.com interviews Bad Brains about -- rank: 1000

On Aug 6, 2007, at 5:28 PM, B. wrote: > Even better is the term, also in the culture, > "proto-post-punk." Silver Apples, Brian Eno, Can, all > that. Yeah, and before that the VU. That's how I came to punk - in the early/mid-70s, amidst all the pap there was Eno-era Roxy Music, then Eno solo, etc. And the NY Dolls. Did they sound great in 1973. Something like the Gang of Four, which is post-punk I guess, sounded pretty punk when they first hit the scene. Art school punk, m ...

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Date:	Mon Aug 6 15:09:19 PDT 2007

12490 [lbo-talk] PEN-Lers/LBOsters blogworth as per Technorati -- rank: 1000

On Aug 6, 2007, at 2:53 PM, Marvin Gandall wrote: > evokes memories of the > early labor organization of freelance writers in the early 1980s. Wow. What a stunning success that was! I got involved in the NWU in the late 1980s, and sat in on negotiations with the Village Voice. And sitting was all I could do - the VV didn't recognize us, and so I wasn't allowed to speak. I did talk informally from time to time with the excellent Julie Kushner, lead negotiator with the Voice for the UAW ...

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Date:	Mon Aug 6 15:05:40 PDT 2007

12491 [lbo-talk] AllHipHop.com interviews Bad Brains about -- rank: 1000

On Aug 6, 2007, at 2:44 PM, B. wrote: > post-punk Which is what, exactly? Is it chronological, or aesthetic, or what? Doug

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Date:	Mon Aug 6 12:40:01 PDT 2007

12492 [lbo-talk] 2010 Economic "Doomsday" -- rank: 1000

On Aug 5, 2007, at 8:56 AM, Auguste Blanqui wrote: > What do the more well-versed think of the claims made in this piece? It's a problem, but it's not "doomsday." Doug

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Date:	Sun Aug 5 10:08:14 PDT 2007

12493 [lbo-talk] cruise update: the Ralph angle -- rank: 1000

On Aug 4, 2007, at 6:53 PM, Chuck wrote: > Hence his appeal to many smart people who are tired of charismatic > politicians. Chuck, I really don't understand what your strategy is for building a movement. There's almost no popular support in the U.S. for anarchism. It's immeasurably small. How do you win friends and influence people? And what appeal does Nader have? He got 2.7% of the pop vote in 2000, and 0.4% in 2004. Doug

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Date:	Sat Aug 4 22:18:43 PDT 2007

12494 [lbo-talk] cruise update: the Ralph angle -- rank: 1000

On Aug 4, 2007, at 4:37 PM, Michael Perelman wrote: > Chuck's last sentence is important. > > On Sat, Aug 04, 2007 at 06:23:53PM -0500, Chuck wrote: >> Nader is probably a complex person like the rest of us. In the big >> picture, his personality is irrelevant. No it's not. It explains why he ran for president as a star turn rather than building a movement. It explains his paranoia about trade, which is way out of proportion to reality. It explains why he's such a dismal ...

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Date:	Sat Aug 4 18:36:58 PDT 2007

12495 [lbo-talk] more cruise -- rank: 1000

On Aug 4, 2007, at 3:25 PM, Michael Pollak wrote: > I think Rocky Anderson is a great guy based on what I've read (and I'm > glad to hear he's a great guy in person) and I'm perfectly willing to > agree the Mormon church is full of weirdness. But AFAIU, this last > bit is > a cheap shot that is technically true but substantially false. It's > technically true insofar as the Mormon church has never officially > repudiated any doctrine (including plural marriage). What they ...

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Date:	Sat Aug 4 18:33:45 PDT 2007