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12451 [lbo-talk] what people talk about while avoiding work -- rank: 1000

CHALLENGER, GRAY & CHRISTMAS, INC. DATE August 9, 2007 For Release Upon Release [sic] Workers Keep It Light Around The Watercooler PARIS TOPS HILLARY IN OFFICE BANTER Which issues have captured the attention of the nation's workers in the past few weeks? Clinton vs. Obama? The war in Iraq? Immigration? Hardly! The most heated conversations around the watercooler these days involve Paris Hilton, the iPhone and the Sopranos finale. At least that is what human resource executives said ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Aug 9 08:27:38 PDT 2007

12452 [lbo-talk] climate & chaos -- rank: 1000

On Aug 8, 2007, at 11:17 PM, Robert Wrubel wrote: > New Yorkers never seem to be happy with the weather. I've been here 28 years and I don't remember one time when a huge rainstorm shut down most of the subway. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Aug 8 20:45:50 PDT 2007

12453 [lbo-talk] climate & chaos -- rank: 1000

We had transit chaos in NYC today after an intense overnight rainstorm dumped 2 inches of rain in an hour. Subways were flooded; the official line was that about half the system was shut down; word on the street is that it was higher. Street traffic was horrendous - worse than the last transit strike. Subway watchdog Gene Russianoff says that the Transit Authority is facing more of these intense storms. You've got to wonder if this was a climate change event, and there's lots more of this ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Aug 8 19:39:46 PDT 2007

12454 [lbo-talk] Nader, et al -- rank: 1000

On Aug 8, 2007, at 12:53 PM, Carrol Cox wrote: > Well I'll be damned -- and here for 40 years I've just sat at home and > figured that the revolution was going to come tomorrow without any > work. > I never dreamed that it might take some work. We all owe Doug great > thanks for his powerful grasp of the obvious which we would otherwise > never see. Carrol, you're contradicting a decade of your output again. For as long as I can remember you've been very fatalistic about when ...

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Date:	Wed Aug 8 10:19:19 PDT 2007

12455 [lbo-talk] Nader, et al -- rank: 1000

On Aug 8, 2007, at 12:22 PM, Michael Smith wrote: > As to whether it makes a difference -- I disagree with Carrol to this > extent: I think each vote for a Democrat does a weensy bit of net > damage to the well-being of humankind (WBOH), and each abstention -- > particularly if it's proudly proclaimed from the housetops, e.g. by > wearing a Don't Vote button -- does a weensy bit of good, if we accept > that achieving, and spreading, some degree of enlightenment is a net > ga ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Aug 8 09:34:23 PDT 2007

12456 [lbo-talk] LA Times 8/7/07: Behind enemy lines -- rank: 1000

On Aug 8, 2007, at 12:15 PM, Chuck wrote: > What annoys me, and what has me considering leaving this list > permanently, is that smart people on this list argue that there is a > difference between these two parties. Superficial differences, I'll > grant that. But fundamental differences? The Democrats are the part of > anti-capitalism? I don't think so. Who ever said the Dems were anti-capitalist? Not me for sure. They're a bourgeois party. They are under pressure from their con ...

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Date:	Wed Aug 8 09:31:42 PDT 2007

12457 [lbo-talk] LA Times 8/7/07: Behind enemy lines -- rank: 1000

On Aug 8, 2007, at 10:48 AM, Michael Smith wrote: > Is it conceivable that the masses are... mistaken? We seem to have no > problem with this conclusion when we discuss the masses' religious > views. Quite possible. But it does mean that people who want to peddle the not a dime's worth line have a lot of work to do. More than they seem to realize. It's also my impression that the not a dime's worth crowd think that they're holding a majority view that the pig system obfuscates. Doug

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Date:	Wed Aug 8 09:03:10 PDT 2007

12458 [lbo-talk] Nader, et al -- rank: 1000

On Aug 8, 2007, at 10:49 AM, Carrol Cox wrote: > How much importance, in practical terms, is this debate. The domain is > fairly small: it consists of leftists for whom voting or not voting > for > the DP is a matter of conscious choice. That is a rather small number. Carrol, I've been reading you for ten years or more. Maybe a quarter of your output has been dedicated to the destructive hold the DP has over the left in America. Now you say it doesn't matter. Were you wrong all th ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Aug 8 08:57:05 PDT 2007

12459 [lbo-talk] Lenin on FRD Drive (Was Cross in memory of Stalin repression victims placed in Moscow) -- rank: 1000

On Aug 8, 2007, at 4:04 AM, James Heartfield wrote: > Lenin on FDR Drive: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/69514110@N00/1047789265/ > http://www.flickr.com/photos/69514110@N00/1047789117/ > http://www.flickr.com/photos/69514110@N00/1047789241/ > http://www.flickr.com/photos/69514110@N00/1047789129/ > > My guide was the inestimable Alex Gourevitch That's the East Houston Street "Red Square" building. Doug

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Date:	Wed Aug 8 06:04:26 PDT 2007

12460 [lbo-talk] FOMC -- rank: 1000

On Aug 8, 2007, at 3:05 AM, joanna wrote: > I thought Bernake was a sworn inflation fighter....so.....no surprises > really. Wall Street has been expecting the Fed to ease since Hurricane Katrina. Bernanke has yet to comply. It's an interesting case study in how the Fed thinks more strategically than do the markets, who want instant gratification. Doug

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Date:	Wed Aug 8 06:02:58 PDT 2007

12461 [lbo-talk] LA Times 8/7/07: Behind enemy lines -- rank: 1000

On Aug 8, 2007, at 12:27 AM, Chuck wrote: > What's crazy about this is that there isn't a dimes worth of > difference > between the two parties. > > This absurd belief that the Democrats and Republicans are any > different > is like something out of Gulliver's Travels. According to the American National Election Survey, about 75% of voters in 2004 saw a clear difference between the two parties, and about 80% cared who won - both the highest levels since the question was f ...

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Date:	Wed Aug 8 06:01:04 PDT 2007

12462 [lbo-talk] Cross in memory of Stalin repression victims placed in Moscow -- rank: 1000

On Aug 7, 2007, at 4:35 PM, Joseph Catron wrote: > Here's one I know of: > > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Lenin-east_village.jpg > > It's at 250 East Houston Street, if you feel the need to see such a > spectacle for yourself. Oh yeah, that one. Forgot about it. The clock (along with the building's "identity" <http://www.translucency.com/frede/ redsqu.html>) was designed by the guy who designed the watch I'm wearing (Tibor Kalman of M&Co.), whic ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Aug 7 13:53:01 PDT 2007

12463 [lbo-talk] Cross in memory of Stalin repression victims placed in Moscow -- rank: 1000

On Aug 7, 2007, at 3:58 PM, James Heartfield wrote: > "Speaking of Stalin, we finally got to see the Lenin Statue in > Seattle." > > I've seen the statue in Manhattan I haven't - where is it?

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Aug 7 13:12:00 PDT 2007

12464 [lbo-talk] George Carlin on religion -- rank: 1000

[thanks to Lou Proyect] <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uBAPbOWLxc&mode=related&search=>

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Aug 7 13:02:47 PDT 2007

12465 [lbo-talk] FOMC -- rank: 1000

On Aug 7, 2007, at 3:07 PM, Michael Pollak wrote: > Very funny, that last line :o) But in all seriousness, hasn't it been > front page news over the last week that the futures markets have been > pricing in a near certainty of a rate cut before the end of the > year, and > the high probability of two (quarter-point) cuts? So what is more > hawkish > than you expect must be hugely more hawkish than they, the all-knowing > markets, expected, no? I think the Fed takes a mo ...

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Date:	Tue Aug 7 12:28:23 PDT 2007