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1231 [lbo-talk] David Graeber interview on OWS -- rank: 1000

On Oct 3, 2011, at 1:32 PM, Michael Pollak wrote: > Short sweet and IMHO the best attempt to explain the anarchist no demand case: > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/youre-creating-a-vision-of-the-sort-of-society-you-want-to-have-in-miniature/2011/08/25/gIQAXVg7HL_blog.html This prefiguration thing seems overdone. What are they producing and distributing? Doug

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Date:	Mon Oct 3 11:42:04 PDT 2011

1232 [lbo-talk] Modern reading comprehension via FB -- rank: 1000

On Oct 3, 2011, at 10:10 AM, Eric Beck wrote: > On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 7:39 AM, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> wrote: > >> Cue Carrol Cox, if he's reading this, on why you can't play to the cops this way. > > "Play off" I can definitely see. "Play to" is way more problematic, > though I wouldn't necessarily give it the thunderous Coxian no. There may be some fine people who are cops, but as a social force, yuck. But playing to them - in the se ...

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Date:	Mon Oct 3 07:19:04 PDT 2011

1233 [lbo-talk] social movements since the 60s... -- rank: 1000

On Oct 3, 2011, at 9:05 AM, Alan Rudy wrote: > I have to cover the New Right and, at first blush, want to present it as > a strategic melding of romantic right wing cultural populism and hard-nosed > right wing neoliberal political economy... not that my students will know > what these things are ahead of time. Of course you have to cover them! They're a social movement, though not our kind. Corey Robin argues in his new book, and my interview him on my Oct 1 radio show, that the rig ...

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Date:	Mon Oct 3 06:23:39 PDT 2011

1234 [lbo-talk] Modern reading comprehension via FB -- rank: 1000

On Oct 2, 2011, at 11:34 PM, Michael Pollak wrote: > Nobody there mentioned anything about having felt trapped by the police. If anything their feeling that the police had been "very cool," and their relating of various conversations with them (including that "we're just cogs in the wheel" and one saying he was going to join the demonstrators on this day off this coming Friday) kind of beggared belief. It sounded at times like the cops were their best friends. This suppor ...

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Date:	Mon Oct 3 05:39:53 PDT 2011

1235 [lbo-talk] Modern reading comprehension via FB -- rank: 1000

On Oct 2, 2011, at 2:07 PM, Jordan S. Carroll wrote: > So far, I've heard speculation and rumors that this was (a) a trap set by the police, (b) an accident that the police seized on, (c) a spontaneous act of civil disobedience with the aim to take and hold the bridge, (d) a spontaneous act of civil disobedience with the aim to march across the bridge, or (e) an act of civil disobedience secretly planned by a cabal of occupiers. It's interesting that, without knowing the goals or intentions o ...

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Date:	Sun Oct 2 12:29:52 PDT 2011

1236 [lbo-talk] The Conservative Mind -- rank: 1000

Thanks - I passed this along to Corey. The book is very worth getting.

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Date:	Sun Oct 2 12:15:46 PDT 2011

1237 [lbo-talk] Modern reading comprehension via FB -- rank: 1000

On Oct 2, 2011, at 9:09 AM, // ravi wrote: > Just to be clear, I don t think they did anything wrong by attempting to march on the bridge. No, except unauthorized mass walking can be a crime in NYC. Doug

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Date:	Sun Oct 2 07:09:31 PDT 2011

1238 [lbo-talk] Modern reading comprehension via FB -- rank: 1000

On Oct 2, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Chuck Grimes wrote: > The flow of traffic is the flow of money materialized ... Actually they wanted to go have a picnic in Brooklyn Bridge Park. All the scores of speculative answers I got didn't acknowledge this. https://occupywallst.org/article/oct1-march/ "We are the 99%" Solidarity March with #OccupyWallStreet at 3 PM Posted Oct. 1, 2011, 9:09 a.m. EST by OccupyWallSt We the 99% will not be silent and we will not be intimidated. This Saturday thousa ...

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Date:	Sun Oct 2 06:05:37 PDT 2011

1239 [lbo-talk] mass arrests on Brooklyn Bridge -- rank: 1000

On Oct 1, 2011, at 11:35 PM, Carrol Cox wrote: > The meaning of the event is defined by these subsequent responses, not by the event itself. All that shit that Lenin wrote? Waste of time. Doug

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Date:	Sat Oct 1 20:44:20 PDT 2011

1240 [lbo-talk] Democratic Party base discovers OWS -- rank: 1000

On Oct 1, 2011, at 10:13 PM, Ferenc Molnar wrote: > Van Jones endorses: Oh please, not that. Reminds me of that New Yorker cartoon on gay marriage. "Haven't they suffered enough?"

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Date:	Sat Oct 1 20:41:14 PDT 2011

1241 [lbo-talk] mass arrests on Brooklyn Bridge -- rank: 1000

On Oct 1, 2011, at 9:31 PM, Michael Smith wrote: > On Sat, 1 Oct 2011 20:50:40 -0400 > Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> wrote: > >> On Oct 1, 2011, at 7:02 PM, Michael Smith wrote: >> A stratagem, in other words. >> >> I got that part, but why did they head to the bridge in the first place? > > This provokes at least two immediate responses: > > a: To get to Brooklyn? > > b: Why shouldn't they? You really think that blocking traffic on ...

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Date:	Sat Oct 1 20:33:21 PDT 2011

1242 [lbo-talk] Modern reading comprehension via FB -- rank: 1000

On Oct 1, 2011, at 9:44 PM, // ravi wrote: > All paraphrased: > > ================================= > > Doug Henwood on FB: > > What s the positive value of marching on the Brooklyn Bridge when all it might accomplish is pissing off delayed and frustrated road users who might otherwise be sympathetic to the cause. Actually I first asked why people marched across the BB. I still don't know the answer. The question you paraphrase was a response to all the characters who though ...

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Date:	Sat Oct 1 20:32:35 PDT 2011

1243 [lbo-talk] mass arrests on Brooklyn Bridge -- rank: 1000

On Oct 1, 2011, at 7:02 PM, Michael Smith wrote: >> From the usual fragmentary and contradictory > news reports, it looks like the cops let 'em > onto the bridge, then blocked both ends and brought > in buses, ordered up from Rikers in advance, to take > 'em off to jail. A stratagem, in other words. I got that part, but why did they head to the bridge in the first place?

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Date:	Sat Oct 1 17:50:40 PDT 2011

1244 [lbo-talk] mass arrests on Brooklyn Bridge -- rank: 1000

Can anyone explain how this BB thing happened?

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Date:	Sat Oct 1 15:20:02 PDT 2011

1245 [lbo-talk] new radio product -- rank: 1000

BEHIND THE NEWS with Doug Henwood "Best Music on an Economics & Politics Radio Show" Village Voice Best of NYC 2005 Freshly posted to my radio archive: October 1, 2011 Corey Robin, political scientist at Brooklyn College and author of The Reactionary Mind, on how the right thinks it joins: --------- September 24, 2011 I visit the Occupy Wall Street demos (my report in words and pictures is here) Rohit Malpani, Oxfam advisor, on land grabs (see herefor report) Steve Keen, author ...

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Date:	Sat Oct 1 11:49:11 PDT 2011