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12181 [lbo-talk] Ron Paul - Mohamed's candidate -- rank: 1000

The guy who made that weird comment about the Protocols of the Elders of Zion in Counterpunch is a Ron Paul fan too! http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2007/872/in3.htm > So to recap: minimal decentralised government, a gold standard, > government "by the book", war strictly as self-defence, charity > instead of government welfare. But wait! This is very much like > Mohamed's vision of a just society, with the Quran as the > constitution. Add to this Paul's pledge to end " ...

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Date:	Mon Dec 3 18:12:52 PST 2007

12182 [lbo-talk] Tariq Ali on Venezuela -- rank: 1000

Lessons for the Bolivarians Venezuela After the Referendum By TARIQ ALI Hugo Chavez' narrow defeat in the referendum was the result of large- scale abstentions by his supporters. 44 percent of the electorate stayed at home. Why? First, because they did not either understand or accept that this was a necessary referendum. The measures related to the working week and some other proposed social reforms could be easily legislated by the existing parliament. The key issues were the removal of re ...

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Date:	Mon Dec 3 14:52:35 PST 2007

12183 [lbo-talk] NYT: Chavez loses, 51% to 49%; Chavez does concede on TV -- rank: 1000

On Dec 3, 2007, at 3:54 PM, John Thornton wrote: > He's always had democratic legitimacy. It isn't something he 'now' > has. And don't forget that Fidel told him to do it - keep the press free, and face elections.

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Date:	Mon Dec 3 13:23:04 PST 2007

12184 [lbo-talk] NYT: Chavez loses, 51% to 49%; Chavez does concede on TV -- rank: 1000

On Dec 3, 2007, at 2:33 PM, Charles Brown wrote: > No aya contradiciion in supporting Chavez as the main leader of the > popular revolution. The popular revolution in Venezuela wouldn't have > had the successes it has had without a popular and progressive leader. It's funny how this is one thing that anarchists and the ISO agree on - Chavez, like Castro, is a power-mad despot, a classic Latin caudillo. The authentic revolution would rise from the grassroots. Problem is, there's real ...

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Date:	Mon Dec 3 12:03:17 PST 2007

12185 [lbo-talk] roots -- rank: 1000

Gayatri Spivak, quoted on the CultStud list: > "Because anyone who can conceive of looking for roots, should, > already, you know, be growing rutabagas." > > Conversation with Angela Ingram, "Postmarked Calcutta," reprinted > in Postcolonial Critic, p. 93 in the 1990 Routledge edition.

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Date:	Mon Dec 3 10:36:36 PST 2007

12186 [lbo-talk] Protocols -- rank: 1000

One of the odder sentences ever to appear in Counterpunch: <http://www.counterpunch.org/walberg12032007.html> Then there's the notorious Protocols of the Elders of Zion, which sets out just such a programme in albeit an overtly grotesque form and is solemnly disowned by Zionists as a forgery, though a forgery of what is never made clear.

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Date:	Mon Dec 3 10:33:15 PST 2007

12187 [lbo-talk] Samir Amin: political Islam "fundamentally reactionary, " an "invaluable ally for imperialism" -- rank: 1000

[evidently not everyone at MR shares the view of YF] http://monthlyreview.org/1207amin.htm Political Islam in the Service of Imperialism by Samir Amin All the currents that claim adherence to political Islam proclaim the specificity of Islam. According to them, Islam knows nothing of the separation between politics and religion, something supposedly distinctive of Christianity. It would accomplish nothing to remind them, as I have done, that their remarks reproduce, almost word for word, ...

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Date:	Mon Dec 3 06:39:29 PST 2007

12188 [lbo-talk] Contradiction -- rank: 1000

On Dec 2, 2007, at 11:23 AM, Jim Farmelant wrote: > Anyway the sword of unintended consequences cuts > both ways. Yeah, things don't always turn out as planned. That's hardly a profound observation. In American political discourse, when elevated into a "law," it's almost always an argument for the status quo. A lot of us like to think of the right wing as a bunch of idiots, but they understand this sort of thing very well. Doug

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Date:	Sun Dec 2 08:44:47 PST 2007

12189 [lbo-talk] Contradiction -- rank: 1000

On Dec 2, 2007, at 10:09 AM, Carrol Cox wrote: > Doug Henwood wrote: >> >> >> It's deployed as a weapon against people on the left who want to >> improve the lot of humanity and only "end up hurting those whom they >> aim to help." > > So? Buttons on your underwear. Doug

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Date:	Sun Dec 2 07:22:22 PST 2007

12190 [lbo-talk] Hillary claims the right flank -- rank: 1000

<http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1207/7127.html> Clinton tacks right at left-leaning forums By: Ben Smith December 2, 2007 02:32 AM EST DES MOINES, Iowa The Democratic candidates for president were pressed from the left in two events in Iowa Saturday and Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton emerged slightly, but noticeably, as the most conservative in the field. On issues ranging from drug crimes to immigration to relations with Cuba, Clinton took heat from liberal audiences for refusing ...

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Date:	Sun Dec 2 06:30:04 PST 2007

12191 [lbo-talk] who says capitalism can't deal with climate change? -- rank: 1000

<http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/02/business/02weather.html> What to Wear? Meteorologists Shape Fashion By MICHAEL BARBARO In the capricious world of fashion, where hemlines, fabrics and colors fall in and out of favor with breathtaking speed, designers and retailers have always relied on one constant the orderly changing of the seasons. But now it seems the seasons have become as fickle as fashion. Two consecutive years of volatile weather last November and this October were the wa ...

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Date:	Sun Dec 2 05:56:44 PST 2007

12192 [lbo-talk] conserativism in America -- rank: 1000

On Dec 2, 2007, at 8:34 AM, Robert Wrubel wrote: > I used to think of fascism as lurking in the most > marginalized classes, but today in the US it seems > just as likely to come from parts of the middle class > -- what William Grieder calls the "leave me alone" new > Republicans. "Are they my poor?" - Emerson Why do ancient American attitudes & practices so often get labeled as fascist? Doug

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Date:	Sun Dec 2 05:45:33 PST 2007

12193 [lbo-talk] Contradiction -- rank: 1000

On Dec 1, 2007, at 9:43 PM, Carrol Cox wrote: > Doug Henwood wrote: >> >> On Dec 1, 2007, at 4:11 PM, Robert Wrubel wrote: >> >>> unintended consequences >> >> A phrase coined by Irving Kristol, I believe. There's something >> conservative about the concept. > > So? It's deployed as a weapon against people on the left who want to improve the lot of humanity and only "end up hurting those whom they aim to help." Doug

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Date:	Sat Dec 1 18:52:12 PST 2007

12194 [lbo-talk] A Modest Proposal -- rank: 1000

On Dec 1, 2007, at 11:16 AM, Chris Doss wrote: > I hereby vote that Yoshie return. She left on her own. I haven't auto-banned her from subscribing, but I can't say I'd be overjoyed by her return. Doug

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Date:	Sat Dec 1 18:19:36 PST 2007

12195 [lbo-talk] Contradiction -- rank: 1000

On Dec 1, 2007, at 4:11 PM, Robert Wrubel wrote: > unintended consequences A phrase coined by Irving Kristol, I believe. There's something conservative about the concept. Doug

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Date:	Sat Dec 1 18:13:28 PST 2007