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12166 [lbo-talk] Dobbs on Democracy Now -- rank: 1000

On Dec 5, 2007, at 9:30 AM, Alex Hogan wrote: > I mean, Dobbs and Greenspan volunteered to come on her show; that > already wins them a little sympthathy from me despite their > evilness. I am generally curious what both of them might say to a > leftist political critique. When Firing Line used to have Mike > Harrington or anti-war leaders on, William Buckley didn't try to > corner them with poorly researched gotcha questions. I tried to get Greenspan on. No luck. But I'm not o ...

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Date:	Wed Dec 5 06:41:21 PST 2007

12167 [lbo-talk] Saletan's apologia -- rank: 1000

[first of four parts, with a comment by Adolph Reed appended - in a NYT piece about the affair on Saturday, Slate editor Jacob Weisberg is quoted saying no one at Slate read the pieces before they were posted] <http://www.slate.com/id/2178122/fr/flyout/> Created Equal Regrets Posted Wednesday, Nov. 28, 2007, at 10:19 AM ET Last week, I wrote about the possibility of genetic IQ differences among races. I wanted to discuss whether egalitarianism could survive if this scenario, raised la ...

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Date:	Wed Dec 5 06:40:38 PST 2007

12168 [lbo-talk] Saletan, race, IQ revisited -- rank: 1000

[there have been some developments on the Saletan front since he was last discussed here...Saletan's own "apology," and this critique by a Slate writer] <http://www.slate.com/id/2179073> Dissecting the IQ DebateA response to William Saletan's series on race and IQ. By Stephen Metcalf Posted Monday, Dec. 3, 2007, at 5:44 PM ET In response to James Watson's remarks concerning the intelligence of blacks, Slate's William Saletan wrote a series of pieces on race, IQ, and genetics ...

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Date:	Wed Dec 5 06:37:39 PST 2007

12169 [lbo-talk] Dobbs on Democracy Now -- rank: 1000

On Dec 5, 2007, at 8:59 AM, Blackmail wrote: > I had to stop listening to Democracy Now because of the awful > music! Do they > not have a music director for better bumper clips? Hell, > Marketwatch on NPR > has better taste. A friend of a friend applied for a job picking music for DN. He suggested The Cure's "Killing an Arab." Amy screamed at him, veins popping, and threw him out of the firehouse. Doug

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Date:	Wed Dec 5 06:29:49 PST 2007

12170 [lbo-talk] Dobbs on Democracy Now -- rank: 1000

On Dec 5, 2007, at 6:31 AM, John Gulick wrote: > What I find both amusing and distressing about the discussion here > is that it is marked with the usual sophomoric invective about how > awful and moronic the enemy is, but is not informed by any keen > sense of how the political alternatives on offer from the alleged > opposition are scarcely different and in fact will only aggravate > rather than attenuate right-wing populist momentum. I'm not quite sure what you mean here. ...

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Date:	Wed Dec 5 05:40:44 PST 2007

12171 [lbo-talk] Dobbs on Democracy Now -- rank: 1000

On Dec 5, 2007, at 7:21 AM, Alex Hogan wrote: > Goodman has a hard time not coming off bad when she faces down > political opponents. I remember Bill Clinton showed her up pretty > good when he called her up once. The exchange that she & Naomi Klein had with Alan Greenspan was embarrassing. They just didn't know enough about Greenspan or the Federal Reserve to engage him. Klein tried to blame him for cronyism in federal contracting, an area over which the Fed has no jurisdiction ...

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Date:	Wed Dec 5 05:36:23 PST 2007

12172 [lbo-talk] the life of a permalancer -- rank: 1000

<http://gawker.com/news/evil-corporations-in-action/the-viacom- permalance-slave-system-329798.php> evil corporations in action The Viacom Permalance Slave System Here's what we hear from what we believe has truly become the Viacom sweatshop. (One Viacom permalancer estimates that almost 50% of the staff are contract workers at this point.) A 50-hour workweek will now be standard, at least at MTV Digital (which means no overtime until after 50 hours, and no overtime at all for higher-l ...

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Date:	Tue Dec 4 20:26:09 PST 2007

12173 [lbo-talk] trends getting ripe? -- rank: 1000

So Warren Buffett bought some junk bonds, Soros bought some Countrywide, Morgan Stanely bought some houses and land from Lennar at 40 cents on the dollar. Meanwhile Will Durst, who is identified as a comedian, wrote a piece on how the US dollar's going to hell. Gotta wonder if this financial crisis is getting a little long in the tooth...

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Date:	Tue Dec 4 12:47:39 PST 2007

12174 [lbo-talk] Iran etc -- rank: 1000

On Dec 4, 2007, at 2:44 PM, Charles A. Grimes wrote: > I also thought it would interesting to hear what Yoshie would have to > say about such a critique... as long as she wrote it I'm not going to make a habit of it, but since you asked, here's what she posted to the Debate list in response to a provocation from, um, me: For those who have read Samir Amin over time, there's little new in the essay ("Political Islam in the Service of Imperialism," Monthly Review 59.7, December 20 ...

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Date:	Tue Dec 4 12:00:53 PST 2007

12175 [lbo-talk] Iran etc -- rank: 1000

It's funny - there are lots of complaints about the ban on talking about Iran, and lots of mourning Yoshie's absence. But when I lift the ban, and post a link to Samir Amin's critique of political Islam - written by a guy who never could be confused with an apologist for imperialism - there's nothing but silence. Is there, as someone suggested to me offlist, some kind of weird chivalry that Yoshie excites? Doug

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Date:	Tue Dec 4 11:30:16 PST 2007

12176 [lbo-talk] NYT: Chavez loses, 51% to 49%; Chavez does concede on TV -- rank: 1000

On Dec 4, 2007, at 1:43 PM, Eric wrote: > Really? For my mental health, I don't keep up with the ISO line, but > I just read this piece > <http://www.socialistworker.org/2007-2/654/654_06_Venezuela.shtml> > and though it does offer a mild lament about the top-downness of > chavismo, it reads more or less like a defense of Chavez. I haven't read their stuff on Chavez - I got the line directly from one of their senior functionaries, in an argument about a year ago. Doug

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Date:	Tue Dec 4 10:30:20 PST 2007

12177 [lbo-talk] Chavez loses -- rank: 1000

On Dec 4, 2007, at 1:09 PM, Marvin Gandall wrote: > Actually, I don't believe either the Cubans or the Venezuelans made > any > "mistakes" - at least not decisive ones - in how they respectively > approached the question of power then and now, and, rather than > thinking in > terms of being "good winners or good losers", it seems to me their > decisions > have always been taken with reference first and foremost to the > existing > relationship of ...

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Date:	Tue Dec 4 10:28:31 PST 2007

12178 [lbo-talk] The "Law" of Unintended Consequences WAS Re: Contradiction -- rank: 1000

On Dec 4, 2007, at 9:10 AM, Tayssir John Gabbour wrote: > So, if they talk about the Law of Unintended Consequences, you'd reply > that this mustn't justify Analysis Paralysis? Who said that's a right-wing cliche? I first heard it from a leftish lawyer on a panel I was on about ten years ago. He kept going on about how NYC should encourage small business as an economic development strategy. I responded by saying that small biz ain't so great - it pays less and can provide a more danger ...

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Date:	Tue Dec 4 06:28:13 PST 2007

12179 [lbo-talk] Chavez loses -- rank: 1000

On Dec 4, 2007, at 2:41 AM, Tahir Wood wrote: > And don't forget that Fidel told him to do it - keep the press free, > and face elections. > > Do as I say, don't do as I do? Yeah. Fidel learned from his mistakes, but it's too late to change the model now. Doug

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Date:	Tue Dec 4 04:37:44 PST 2007

12180 [lbo-talk] Fwd: Trans Rat Fashion Show -- rank: 1000

[somehow I got on this guy's mailing list] From: Kristofer Paetau Date: December 3, 2007 9:55:04 AM EST To: ARTINFO-L at LISTSERV.DFN.DE Subject: Trans Rat Fashion Show Discover the Photo Shoot of 5 Supermodels in Rio de Janeiro wearing brand-new fake Chanel fashion accessories made out of real taxidermised rats: a rat-bra, a rat-slip, a rat-handbag, a rat- handkerchief and a pair of high heel rat-shoes. View complete HTML documentation: http://www.paetau.com/downloads/TransRatFashion/TransRat ...

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