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11716 Re: [lbo-talk] FT: Guantánamo inmates driven insane -- rank: 1000

On Jan 12, 2007, at 2:34 PM, Dwayne Monroe wrote: > Guantánamo inmates driven insane There's a reason they call it the Pink Paper! Fucking anti-Americans. If they'd read the WSJ, they'd know that prisoners in Gitmo are living the high life, being treated far better than they deserve. Yummy food, plus lawyers from Covington & Burling. Doug

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11717 [lbo-talk] Moderation -- rank: 1000

On Jan 12, 2007, at 1:44 PM, Carl Remick wrote: > To the limited extent I've followed it, this voluminous sex > chitchat of late appears to be the list's most stupefyingly > irrelevant discussion in the many years I've been here. I don't want to reopen this, but sex is pretty important stuff. It has a lot to do with who we are, and even has a lot to do with the things you probably consider "real" politics, like war and exploitation. Ralph Waldo might have considered his bod ...

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11718 [lbo-talk] "Shadow" of Iran Growing, Spy Czar Says -- rank: 1000

On Jan 12, 2007, at 12:26 PM, Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: > Darling, Iraq is not the main event for the ruling class -- Iran is. I'm not Darling, but: 1) How do you know?, 2) What is the ruling class, and how does it form its thoughts, and 3) Are you confusing the Bush admin with the r.c.? Doug

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Date:	Fri Jan 12 10:34:12 PST 2007

11719 [lbo-talk] Moderation -- rank: 1000

On Jan 12, 2007, at 11:37 AM, Wojtek Sokolowski wrote: > [WS:] I think you are making some heroic assumptions how people read > messages posted to this list. The above seem to assume that people > read the > latest messages first and then proceed to earlier postings, because > only > that sequence implies a violation of the ruling 1hr20min ago. If > people > read earliest messages first, as I do, starting from those posted > yesterday > night, how on earth are the ...

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Date:	Fri Jan 12 09:19:13 PST 2007

11720 [lbo-talk] WSJ: Rapid Plunge in Price of Oil -- rank: 1000

On Jan 12, 2007, at 11:47 AM, Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: > "Crude oil plunged another $2.14 a barrel, or 4% yesterday to $51.88 > on the New York Mercantile Exchange," -- down 15% since the beginning > of the year and down 33% from the record high of $77.03 14 July 2006, > says the WSJ (Mark Whitehouse, Ann Davis, Melanie Trottman, and Mike > Spector, "Rapid Plunge in Price of Oil May Fuel Growth," 12 January > 2007). That, along with last year's elections in ...

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11721 [lbo-talk] Class, Kink, Sex -- rank: 1000

On Jan 12, 2007, at 10:20 AM, Wojtek Sokolowski wrote: > I think the causal connection works a bit differently here Note the time-stamp: 10:20, an hour and twenty minutes after the thread was closed. The next person to post on this topic goes on moderation. Doug

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Date:	Fri Jan 12 07:37:04 PST 2007

11722 [lbo-talk] Dick Morris: Dems to split, thanks to far left -- rank: 1000

<http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/index.php?idX1647.html> The Coming Democratic Party Civil War By Dick Morris and Eileen McGann Iraq is not the only place that is threatening to dissolve into the anarchy and bloodletting of a civil war. It's about to happen to the Democratic Party. Reacting to Bush's planned "surge" in troop strength, the Democratic leaders in Congress, savoring their victory, are contemplating taking only symbolic steps to protest Bush's war policies, ...

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Date:	Fri Jan 12 07:36:14 PST 2007

11723 [lbo-talk] Congress could force withdrawal from Iraq -- rank: 1000

[I haven't seen the bit about the War Powers Act giving Congress the right to force withdrawal anywhere else. Seems important, not, of course, that the Dems are about to do anything rash.] Financial Times - January 11, 2007 Congress is helpless only out of choice By Jacob Weisberg Several decades back, the psychologist Martin Seligman developed his theory of "learned helplessness". Subjected to repeated punishment, animals and humans come to believe they have no control over what ...

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Date:	Fri Jan 12 06:24:47 PST 2007

11724 [lbo-talk] WSJ: Gitmo's really pretty nice -- rank: 1000

Wall Street Journal - January 13, 2007 The Gitmo High Life By ROBERT L. POLLOCK For sheer irony it's hard to beat this week's spectacle of Cindy Sheehan protesting the U.S. detention facilities at Guantanamo Bay -- from inside the prison that is Cuba itself. It's not uncommon for asylum-seeking Cubans to brave minefields and shark-infested waters to enter the U.S. naval base, which five years ago this week also became home to many top figures from al Qaeda and the Taliban. That anniversary ...

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Date:	Fri Jan 12 06:18:15 PST 2007

11725 [lbo-talk] Re: Sex and Stuff -- rank: 1000

Ok, no more on this. Doug

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11726 [lbo-talk] Re: Sex and Stuff -- rank: 1000

A reminder: this thread expires in 51 minutes. Doug

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11727 [lbo-talk] the Hagelian view -- rank: 1000

On Jan 12, 2007, at 3:16 AM, Eric wrote: >> [the FT often describes him as "the thoughtful" Chuck Hagel - from >> The Note] > > Of course. We graduates of Scotus Central Catholic High School > (Columbus, NE) are a thoughtful bunch! Caught a bit of his questioning of Rice on the TV last night. The guy seems very smart, esp compared to the boneheads who dominate the Senate, and man did he give her a hard time. What's his story? Doug

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11728 Aristocracies, was Re: [lbo-talk] Class and Kink -- rank: 1000

Woj wrote: > I also came to the conclusion that > if one is serious about social change, one needs to get in cahoots > with the > enlightened elites Who are these enlightened elites? Could you point some out to me for my ruling class research? Doug

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Date:	Thu Jan 11 16:38:48 PST 2007

11729 [lbo-talk] Pleasure, Pain and All That Jazz -- rank: 1000

On Jan 11, 2007, at 5:00 PM, Charles Brown wrote: > This topic keeps repeating itself like a tape loop. I can't discuss > it with > you on this list. There is only one correct opinion on this issue > on this > list, and the hammer is about to come down on anyone who doesn't > agree with > that authoritative opinion. No, Charles - the hammer is about to come down - 13.5 hours from now - on all sides. I'm not selectively shutting one side off, and I count 23 posts on this s ...

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11730 [lbo-talk] Re: Sex and Stuff -- rank: 1000

On Jan 11, 2007, at 5:24 PM, BklynMagus wrote: > I do think that this season of LBO DOES KINK has broadcast all of > its episdoes. Yup. No more on this thread after 9 AM New York time tomorrow (Friday). Get your last-minute ya-ya's out now. Doug

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