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11491 [lbo-talk] 300 Pounds of Joy (Was Re: 4 July - Help me Think) -- rank: 1000

On Jul 6, 2007, at 3:38 PM, Andy F wrote: > On a similar note, has anybody else seen the Suicide Girls? I saw a > DVD of them and I confess I didn't really get the point. Like it was > supposed to be this big "tear down beauty standards" thing, and they > had a bunch of slimmer-than-average 20-somethings with tats and > piercings. Very hipster, hee hee. You can hear Audacia Ray talk about that in an interview I'm about to post to my radio archive. Watch this space f ...

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Date:	Fri Jul 6 12:52:22 PDT 2007

11492 [lbo-talk] national health care-breeding ground for terrorism -- rank: 1000

On Jul 6, 2007, at 8:34 AM, Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: > The end of habeas corpus has come not through anticommunism but > Islamophobia, which most liberals and leftists of the West are unable > to counter because their estimation of Muslims is not all that > different from the general public's and at the bottom of their hearts > they fear Islamism more than imperialism. <http://www.gallupworldpoll.com/content/?CI=28051> Britons Unthreatened By Those With Different Religious Be ...

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Date:	Fri Jul 6 11:36:00 PDT 2007

11493 [lbo-talk] 300 Pounds of Joy (Was Re: 4 July - Help me Think) -- rank: 1000

On Jul 6, 2007, at 12:30 PM, Carrol Cox wrote: > Possibly this is one matter that vulgar marxism will explain. The > Womens' magazines have always emphasized "new" weight-loss programs; > it's very nearly the bread-&-butter issue that draws readers & hence > advertisers. For what it's worth, Liza heard an editor of a major women's mag say at a conference that they know very well that the only way to lose weight is to eat less and exercise more, but their readers d ...

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Date:	Fri Jul 6 11:29:42 PDT 2007

11494 [lbo-talk] Oliver Stone and Ahmadinejad's spokesman -- rank: 1000

On Jul 6, 2007, at 9:32 AM, Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: > Or perhaps the President of Iran, or his adviser, knows what happened > to Comandante, Oliver Stone's first documentary about Fidel Castro > that is reportedly a sympathetic portrayal of the Cuban leader, too > sympathetic to be allowed to be released in theaters in the USA, and > it was naturally rejected by HBO as well. So that's what the president's spokestool meant by saying that while he knew that Stone was part of the op ...

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Date:	Fri Jul 6 08:38:19 PDT 2007

11495 [lbo-talk] Miliband gossip -- rank: 1000

On Jul 6, 2007, at 7:53 AM, Michael Smith wrote: > And the black bra and no knickers does sound rather fetching, > actually > -- doesn't it? Thoroughly. Hard to argue with, really. I met David M years ago when his brother Edward - then universally known as "Eddie" - was a Nation intern. David seemed like an slick & ambitious centrist even in those days, a sharp contrast with Eddie, who was more radical, a bit neurotically tortured, and quite charming. Eddie stayed in ...

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Date:	Fri Jul 6 05:21:18 PDT 2007

11496 [lbo-talk] Israeli tech & Talpiot -- rank: 1000

[this presents a somewhat different picture from that Naomi Klein piece of a few weeks ago - nothing like military subsidies to get civilian high-tech going!] Wall Street Journal - July 6, 2007 SECRET WEAPON How an Elite Military School Feeds Israel's Tech Industry Groomed for Defense Jobs, Talpiot Grads Go Private; The Cradle of 'Star Wars' By CHRISTOPHER RHOADS JERUSALEM -- After graduating from high school in 1993, Arik Czerniak entered a secretive Israeli military program called Talpiot. ...

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Date:	Fri Jul 6 05:12:43 PDT 2007

11497 [lbo-talk] Oliver Stone and Ahmadinejad's spokesman -- rank: 1000

On Jul 5, 2007, at 8:05 PM, Michael Pollak wrote: > "It is right that this person is considered part of the opposition in > the U.S., but opposition in the U.S. is a part of the Great Satan." > > -- media advisor Mehdi Kahlor, rejecting Oliver Stone's request to > make > a documentary about Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad Omigod, does that include Yoshie? Doug

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Date:	Thu Jul 5 20:40:57 PDT 2007

11498 [lbo-talk] Liberalism -- rank: 1000

On Jul 5, 2007, at 9:14 PM, Carrol Cox wrote: > Dennis Claxton wrote: >> >> I'd also wager this 14-year-old knows a lot of stuff about the >> world that you haven't a clue about. > > This was my premise. The "ignorance" and "stupidity" of so many > americans, adult and teenage, is ideology-based -- which is why > they can > learn so fast when conditions break through that ideology. And is also > why only events, for the most part, not pr ...

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Date:	Thu Jul 5 20:23:19 PDT 2007

11499 [lbo-talk] Miliband gossip -- rank: 1000

On Jul 5, 2007, at 9:15 PM, bitch at pulpculture.org wrote: > At 10:43 AM 7/5/2007, you wrote: >> On Thursday 05 July 2007 11:06, Doug Henwood wrote: >> >>> She reports that he could only >>> have it off if she was wearing a black >>> bra and no knickers." >> >> And your point is...? > > becuase it's important to be sex positive and then ridicule people for > their sexual practices! duh! Actually I thought it hum ...

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Date:	Thu Jul 5 20:12:37 PDT 2007

11500 [lbo-talk] Miliband gossip -- rank: 1000

[ok, there are the many ironies of the sons of a Marxist state theorist taking state power in a bourgeois government - and there's gossip - from Popbitch] >> Foreign affairs << David Miliband in the sack john_lewis_partnership writes: "A girl I know went out with the "youngest Foreign Secretary for thirty years" back in the early '90s. She reports that he could only have it off if she was wearing a black bra and no knickers."

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Date:	Thu Jul 5 08:06:42 PDT 2007

11501 [lbo-talk] Australian has indiscreet moment -- rank: 1000

Oil a factor in Australian role in Iraq: minister by Neil Sands 28 minutes ago SYDNEY (AFP) - Oil is a key factor keeping Australian troops in the US-led war in Iraq, Defence Minister Brendan Nelson said Thursday, before his boss Prime Minister John Howard sharply contradicted him. ADVERTISEMENT Nelson's startling comments caused an immediate stir in Australia, one of the United States' few major allies in the increasingly unpopular war, but Howard quickly backed away from the explosive con ...

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Date:	Thu Jul 5 04:51:00 PDT 2007

11502 [lbo-talk] Liberalism (Was Re: Nietzsche) -- rank: 1000

On Jul 4, 2007, at 2:25 PM, andie nachgeborenen wrote: > I thought the issue was about substance. The critics > of liberalism (Carl, Carrol, Doug maybe?, certainly > Charles and Yoshiem others) were saying that the > political institutions and practices I called liberal > were exhausted or inextricably bound up with something > bad. I was challenging them to explain what they had > that was better. It's not that the things you call "liberal" are bad. They're not; ...

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Date:	Wed Jul 4 11:48:39 PDT 2007

11503 [lbo-talk] India inflation eases to 4.80 pc -- rank: 1000

On Jul 4, 2007, at 11:39 AM, Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: > There are orthodox capitalist instruments for controlling inflation: > raise interest rates, remove state interventions (such as duties on > certain food imports), and let the market do its work (though orthodox > capitalist policy over all can help guerrilla insurgency against the > government grow: "India's Hidden War," 27 October 2006, > <http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/ontv/unreported_world/india > ...

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Date:	Wed Jul 4 09:43:30 PDT 2007

11504 [lbo-talk] Liberalism (Was Re: Nietzsche) -- rank: 1000

On Jul 3, 2007, at 10:06 PM, Michael Smith wrote: > On Tue, 2007-07-03 at 18:49 -0400, Doug Henwood wrote: > >> Yeah, I'm really wondering who these liberals are who advocate >> liberalism? These days you've got to be pretty far to the left - like >> NLG/CCR - to resist the imperatives of the terror war, for example. > > But wasn't that the kind of thing that liberals _always_ embraced? > They > loved the Cold War, if memory serves, and enlisted con brio -- fo ...

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Date:	Tue Jul 3 19:14:50 PDT 2007

11505 [lbo-talk] Liberalism (Was Re: Nietzsche) -- rank: 1000

Carrol COx: > Marxist theory has to be held tacitly, for the most > part, as the shape of revolutionary thought, not as its content. Shape = form? Since when can you so easily separate form & content? Doug

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