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11461 [lbo-talk] Mamie Van Doren blogs on MySpace about Paris Hilton... -- rank: 1000

On Jul 8, 2007, at 11:46 PM, B. quoted MVD: > too many of our children > (and theirs) are dying Wow. Mamie van Doren can say something the NYT editorialists can't: Iraqis are dying too! Amazing. Doug

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11462 [lbo-talk] Handwriting on the wall ( Re: Max Horkheimer on Theismand Atheism) -- rank: 1000

On Jul 8, 2007, at 11:17 PM, Carl Remick wrote: > The notion that KM's work bears any serious relationship to science > is a joke. It's moralism pure and simple He did spend a little time analyzing the workings of capitalism and the thinking of its economists, you know. Doug

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11463 [lbo-talk] Max Horkheimer on Theism and Atheism -- rank: 1000

On Jul 8, 2007, at 3:35 PM, Carl Remick wrote: > Beauty, ha! I see this as a classic example of the faithful > wanting to > ensure that their meaningless gibberish is as as incomprehensible as > possible. Ah, the sweet mystery of BS. Well yeah. When I was a kid I thought the Latin mass was intoxicating. When they translated it into English it sounded like mumbo-jumbo. Maybe I just got older too. But listening to Bach's B Minor Mass, it's hard to resist the mystical pull. Doug

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Date:	Sun Jul 8 12:54:43 PDT 2007

11464 [lbo-talk] great moments in the history of liberalism -- rank: 1000

[I keep forgetting that this is the 60th anniversary of the remarkable year 1947, which is kind of when the structure of the American empire took form. All this happened, and there was the famous autoworker contract that served as the master capital-labor accord...] <http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/~ucalhist/archives_exhibits/loyaltyoath/ timeline1940_1948.html> 1947 American President Harry Truman establishes the "Truman Doctrine" stating as policy worldwide American opposition ...

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11465 [lbo-talk] 300 Pounds of Joy (Was Re: 4 July - Help me Think) -- rank: 1000

On Jul 8, 2007, at 2:55 PM, Jerry Monaco wrote: > Her claim is not that people may not weigh more but that "diets" have > no effect on weight. Are you claiming that forced hunger and > starvation are a diet? "Dieting" may have no lasting effect on weight, because for whatever reason, people often go back to overeating. But eating less makes you lose weight. I'm sure the question is rhetorical, so I'm going to ignore it. Doug

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11466 [lbo-talk] Max Horkheimer on Theism and Atheism -- rank: 1000

On Jul 8, 2007, at 2:39 PM, Mr. WD wrote: > On 7/8/07, Yoshie Furuhashi <critical.montages at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Max Horkheimer 1963 >> Source: Critique of Instrumental Reason. Max Horkheimer. Published by >> Continuum 1974 >> >> opposite of religion. Those who professed themselves to be >> atheists at >> a time when religion was still in power tended to identify themselves >> more deeply with the theistic commandment to love one's ...

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11467 [lbo-talk] Max Horkheimer on Theism and Atheism -- rank: 1000

On Jul 8, 2007, at 12:43 PM, Robert Wrubel wrote: > I dont get it, Doug. I was just thinking how well > that quote fits certain contemporaries, like > Christopher Hitchens and Sam Harris. What atheists have power in the U.S.? Pete Stark is the only self- proclaimed athetist member of Congress. The president is an apocalyptic Christian nut. He was sworn into office on a bible. Our money declares our trust in god. And fewer Americans would vote for an atheist for president than a quee ...

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Date:	Sun Jul 8 09:59:38 PDT 2007

11468 [lbo-talk] 300 Pounds of Joy -- rank: 1000

On Jul 8, 2007, at 12:42 PM, Jim Straub wrote: > I had a negative view of kolata after that. Judy Bari was her sister, by the way, though probably everyone knows that. Kolata has plenty of critics. ACT-UP plastered NYC with stickers proclaiming her the worst AIDS reporter in the U.S. in the early 1990s. Mark Dowie and others have found her to take a consistently pro-corporate line. E.g.: <http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/Gina-Kolata-Dowie6jul98.htm> <http://www.sourcewatch.org/ind ...

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11469 [lbo-talk] 300 Pounds of Joy -- rank: 1000

[from a paper on the economics of obesity] <http://www.uni-kiel.de/ifw/konfer/newtech/loureironayga.pdf> There are mainly two arguments that could justify the growth of overweight problems around the world: some researchers argue that obesity growth is mainly due to a higher intake of calories, while others state that obesity is mainly caused by a lower expenditure of calories in daily activities. In line with the calorie consumption argument, Cutler, Glaeser, and Shapiro stated that ...

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Date:	Sun Jul 8 09:41:23 PDT 2007

11470 [lbo-talk] 300 Pounds of Joy (Was Re: 4 July - Help me Think) -- rank: 1000

On Jul 8, 2007, at 11:12 AM, Jerry Monaco wrote: > 1) She lays out the statistics that this is mostly unproven because > statistics have only been kept in the post-war era, and this is the > first era where the mass of people have not faced real forced hunger. > Famine and forced hunger tends to keep weight down. Then it is proven, no? There were very few fat people, except for the rich, before the 20th century. That's back when fat was a status symbol. Now that 2/3 of Americans h ...

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Date:	Sun Jul 8 09:29:11 PDT 2007

11471 [lbo-talk] 300 Pounds of Joy (Was Re: 4 July - Help me Think) -- rank: 1000

On Jul 8, 2007, at 11:41 AM, bitch at pulpculture.org wrote: > At 08:40 AM 7/8/2007, you wrote: > >> On Jul 8, 2007, at 8:50 AM, Jerry Monaco wrote: >> >>> According to Gina Kolata's latest book -- Rethinking Thin: The New >>> Science of Weight Loss--and the Myths and Realities of Dieting -- >>> Not >>> even exercise and reduced calories will help in the long run. >> >> So why, if corpulence is so baked in the cake, are Americans ...

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11472 [lbo-talk] WBAI makes Page Six -- rank: 1000

On Jul 8, 2007, at 10:27 AM, ravi wrote: > What a joke! According to Quinn we are to subscribe to the idea that > "anti-white" is racism in the same way that "anti-black" is? No, I'm certainly not signing on to that agenda. But why do Lucas & Co. have to go all homophobic? Actually, some of the black nats at WBAI are anti-feminists and homophobes, not to mention anti-Semites. > Also, > since when did Koreans become "white"? I thought to white peopl ...

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11473 [lbo-talk] obit of the week -- rank: 1000

[Meant to send this out the other day, after Gawker wrote it up...] Telegraph (London) - July 7, 2007 <http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=&xml=/ news/2007/07/04/db0402.xml> Count Gottfried von Bismarck Count Gottfried von Bismarck, who was found dead on Monday aged 44, was a louche German aristocrat with a multi-faceted history as a pleasure-seeking heroin addict, hell-raising alcoholic, flamboyant waster and a reckless and extravagant host of homosexua ...

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Date:	Sun Jul 8 07:21:54 PDT 2007

11474 [lbo-talk] Max Horkheimer on Theism and Atheism -- rank: 1000

On Jul 8, 2007, at 12:09 AM, Yoshie Furuhashi quoted Max Horkheimer: > The meanings of the two concepts do > not remain unaffected by history Indeed. Because there's no way this could apply to the United States: > Nowadays atheism is in fact the attitude of those who follow > whatever power happens to be dominant... Come to think of it, this quote is pretty funny coming from someone who's constantly apologizing for a state in which religious power isn't merely dominant, but is the ...

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Date:	Sun Jul 8 07:11:46 PDT 2007

11475 [lbo-talk] WBAI makes Page Six -- rank: 1000

New York Post [Page Six] - July 8, 2007 Quinn-bashing Costs Station AFTER a bid to name a street after race-baiting activist Sonny Carson was blocked by Council Speaker Christine Quinn, FM talk station WBAI has made her Public Enemy No. 1 - but the campaign seems to have backfired. Sources say the station is losing audience due to hosts who've used "racist, sexist and homophobic" slurs when discussing openly gay Quinn on air. Our regular listener says the worst offender is Father ...

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