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10501 [lbo-talk] Memorial Day -- rank: 1000

On May 29, 2007, at 12:01 PM, ravi wrote: > And as I have mentioned before, those of you using pseudonyms or > equivalents should be aware that there are multiple clues to your > identity and location available in the messages you post to LBO. > While keyboard bravado may be a cathartic outlet if you are white and > a citizen, Andie's caution above is, IMHO, quite appropriate > especially for others who face real threats from our current > government. > > Of course, be ...

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Date:	Tue May 29 09:36:02 PDT 2007

10502 [lbo-talk] Memorial Day -- rank: 1000

On May 29, 2007, at 10:39 AM, andie nachgeborenen wrote: > > OK, but you have to be willing to run the risk of > political criminal prosecution and a long prison > sentence. This is no joke. Free speech, hah. Where do > you think you live, Chuck? I really don't know whether that sort of speech is a crime, but if it is, there's a possibility that Jordan and I could be liable for hosting it. So no advocacy of violence on this list. Streng verboten. I hate being a censor but this ...

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Date:	Tue May 29 08:38:05 PDT 2007

10503 [lbo-talk] Hitch & the hicks -- rank: 1000

New York Post [Page Six] - May 29, 2007 Hitch Kicks Up Ungodly Furor CHRISTOPHER "Hellbound" Hitchens has just finished a wacky, hick- state tour for his best-selling atheist manifesto, "God Is Not Great" - and he had no trouble whipping up hundreds of furious churchgoing folk and cheering nonbelievers who flocked to debates in Georgia, North Carolina and Florida. As confrontational as ever, newly minted American citizen Hitchens, during one heated discussion, invited an ...

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Date:	Tue May 29 06:34:58 PDT 2007

10504 [lbo-talk] redefining success -- rank: 1000

<http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/TheNote/story?id=3105288&page=1> On Iraq, Bush's victory on war funding masks an uncomfortable political reality for the president: the war is growing more unpopular by the day, and all signs point to a September date by which the GOP will be fed up. The Los Angeles Times' Julian Barnes has military leaders "seeking ways to redefine success" because they are "increasingly convinced" that most of the political goals laid out ...

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Date:	Tue May 29 06:28:24 PDT 2007

10505 [lbo-talk] dev'ts in world economy and foreign ownership -- rank: 1000

On May 28, 2007, at 2:53 PM, Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: > The Iraq War has ended up eroding the _political hegemony_ of the US > power elite. And yet the Iraq War has not hurt the US capitalists' > _economic bottom line_ yet. Well yeah, but that's part of the point I'm making about the ruling class. It's unable to think in any other terms than current profits; it's a monied class that can't think about its long-term interests. It would be sensible to be worried about the c/a deficit an ...

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Date:	Mon May 28 16:06:54 PDT 2007

10506 [lbo-talk] Memorial Day -- rank: 1000

On May 28, 2007, at 5:49 PM, Jerry Monaco wrote: > Yes disturbing, beautiful, slightly titilating and exclusive... > The photo > selections for these pieces always show us that there is a certain > kind of > grief that we should care for and not other kinds of grief. Yes, I > find it > manipulative and slightly revolting that this sexualized grief will > be the > kind of grief we will always choose to display, to direct our > empathy, to > blind us from the ugly ...

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Date:	Mon May 28 15:52:43 PDT 2007

10507 [lbo-talk] dev'ts in world economy and foreign ownership -- rank: 1000

On May 28, 2007, at 3:15 PM, Michael Smith wrote: > That's the part that puzzles me: why didn't they see that coming? > Did they > really think Iraq would be like Timor, or Kosovo? It depends on which "they" you mean. The CIA projected something like what happened. I had people on my radio show who projected something like what happened. Cheney, Wolfowitz, Feith, and the rest of the gang didn't want to listen. Doug

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Date:	Mon May 28 15:49:46 PDT 2007

10508 [lbo-talk] Developments in the world economy and the conceptofforeign ownership -- rank: 1000

On May 28, 2007, at 2:26 PM, Seth Ackerman wrote: > I think you should look at Beckert's NYC > bourgeoisie as *becoming* the American ruling class as a *result* > of the > Civil War. Yes, of course. Sorry if I gave the impression otherwise. The pre-CW elite in New York also hadn't figured out what to do with the manufacturers - smelly glue-boilers like Peter Cooper. By the way, though I'm only about 1/3 through it, it's a damn fine book. It's a lot more interesting than <yawn&g ...

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Date:	Mon May 28 15:45:00 PDT 2007

10509 [lbo-talk] Memorial Day -- rank: 1000

On May 28, 2007, at 2:20 PM, joanna wrote: > half porn So? What's wrong with that? Doug

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10510 [lbo-talk] dev'ts in world economy and foreign ownership -- rank: 1000

On May 28, 2007, at 1:39 PM, Michael Smith wrote: >> The Iraq War has been a disaster for the Iraqis, and it has had a >> much >> smaller but still negative impact on American workers, too, but it >> has >> not hurt the US ruling class _at all_: the share of their income has >> gone up, for instance. > > Do you think the two facts are connected? It's difficult for me to > see how, at > least in any very direct way. It seems reasonable to think that ...

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Date:	Mon May 28 10:56:07 PDT 2007

10511 [lbo-talk] Memorial Day -- rank: 1000

On May 28, 2007, at 12:57 PM, Jerry Monaco wrote: > Don't you think that choosing this photo of _sexualized_ grief, a > representation of almost visceral necrophiliac desire, is in fact a > piece of > propaganda? From the rest of your post it's clear you don't mean that it's a piece of antiwar propaganda, which is how I see it, consciously or not. I've seen lots of stock images of wailing women mourning their dead, but there's something about the intense and frustrated physical l ...

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10512 [lbo-talk] Developments in the world economy and the conceptofforeign ownership -- rank: 1000

On May 28, 2007, at 10:56 AM, Marvin Gandall wrote: > Were your examples above typically reservations expressed in > private or open > criticism of government preparations for war? In the case of Iraq, > I think > it's clear that the differences within the ruling class were openly > and > sharply expressed to an unprecedented degree, and not only from > opposition > Democrats, but more notably by Scowcroft and other veterans of the > Republican establishment. On WW ...

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Date:	Mon May 28 09:36:59 PDT 2007

10513 [lbo-talk] China: round-tripping -- rank: 1000

<http://siteresources.worldbank.org/CHINAEXTN/Resources/ 318949-1121421890573/cqu_07_en.pdf> > End December, the government submitted to the National People's > Congress' standing committee a draft new corporate tax law > containing one unified tax rate for domestic and foreign funded > enterprises (FFEs) and uniform treatment of tax deductibles and tax > base. The new unified rate of 25 percent would imply a significant > increase for FFEs operating in special economic z ...

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Date:	Mon May 28 08:04:36 PDT 2007

10514 [lbo-talk] dev'ts in world economy and foreign ownership -- rank: 1000

On May 27, 2007, at 10:03 PM, Michael Smith wrote: > I've toyed from time to time with the idea that the ruling class is > not a > unitary entity. Not now, it's not, in the U.S. Nothing's replaced the WASPs as a coherent social entity, with a common worldview, social ties, institutional affiliations, or a cuisine. Compare the editpages of the NYT & WSJ as mouthpieces for elite thinking (or transmission belts from the upper to upper-middle levels). The right-wing ascendancy of t ...

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Date:	Mon May 28 07:48:42 PDT 2007

10515 [lbo-talk] Developments in the world economy and the concept offoreign ownership -- rank: 1000

On May 27, 2007, at 11:11 PM, Marvin Gandall wrote: > Most of this burgeoning production appears to be by foreign firms. > Since > Deng, we know that the country has been thrown wide open to to foreign > investment and I have understood that they were leading China's > development, > but not at all to the extent suggested in an article from the > latest issue > of the Australian Marxist publication, Green Left Weekly, posted on > Lou > Proyect's list last week. Unde ...

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