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10126 [lbo-talk] who likes Hillary -- rank: 1000

Poking through Gallup's site searching for the right track/wrong track question, I came across an analysis of who likes Hillary. Overall, respondents divide equally - 48% like her, 48% don't. But the strongest support of any demographic group comes from blacks, 84% of whom like her. Given Carrol Cox's repeated urgings that white leftists follow black leadership, I await his donning a Hillary in '08 button. Liberals like her more than moderates - 80% vs. 71%. 54% of women and 41% of men lik ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Oct 3 10:25:08 PDT 2007

10127 [lbo-talk] Reps losing business class (sorry for last post) -- rank: 1000

On Oct 3, 2007, at 12:56 PM, Mr. WD wrote: > Any guesses on what kinds of processes might make this kind of thing > happen? Does too much boom-iness somehow signal to the > opinion-forming elites that some tightening is in order? I wonder > what those signals would be. Likewise, I wonder what signs of popular > restiveness would cause the opinion-forming elites to push things over > to the Dems. Yeah, the spottiness of the mechanisms is one reason I'm reluctant to embrace t ...

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Date:	Wed Oct 3 10:18:49 PDT 2007

10128 [lbo-talk] Islamist, Socialist Revolutions Don't Mix -- rank: 1000

On Oct 3, 2007, at 12:44 PM, John Gulick wrote: > Yoshie or whomever... can you parse this for me/us? "The story > behind the story" in terms of tendencies, motivations, and > ideologies involved? Not baiting, not goading, truly curious... > > http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=39503 Yeah, Yoshie's the one to ask! The full story is pretty rich. Here it is, in case people didn't follow the link. Choice graf: > "Ahmadinejad has visited several Latin American c ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Oct 3 10:01:38 PDT 2007

10129 [lbo-talk] Reps losing business class (sorry for last post) -- rank: 1000

On Oct 3, 2007, at 12:39 PM, Robert Wrubel wrote: > I think Kevin Phillips made this observation in > *Wealth and Democracy in America*. His point, that > Americans temperamentally believe in making money, and > dont mind that other people are making more, except > now and then, as in the 1890's, when money-making > seems to get out of hand. Then they allow the Dems to > come in and make some reforms. I was surprised at how > few reform eras, as opposed to wealth-build ...

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Date:	Wed Oct 3 09:56:45 PDT 2007

10130 [lbo-talk] it's looking more like Pres Clinton... -- rank: 1000

On Oct 3, 2007, at 12:22 PM, joanna wrote: > This is probably the time to remind you that four years ago you posted > something about needing > to be shot if you voted for Hillary. I'm not going to, so no need to shoot me.

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Oct 3 09:32:45 PDT 2007

10131 [lbo-talk] Reps losing business class (sorry for last post) -- rank: 1000

On Oct 3, 2007, at 12:12 PM, Robert Wrubel wrote: > Doug: "The stock market does better under Dems, the > bond market under Reps." > > The Dow high was 12,000 under Clinton, right? Under > Bush, 14,000. I admit I am surprised, though. I > basically agree with you. I ran the numbers going back to the 1940s. Two of the great bull markets of all time were under Dems - JFK/LBJ and WJC. The Reagan years were pretty good too, but Nixon's sucked, as did Bush 41. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Oct 3 09:25:25 PDT 2007

10132 [lbo-talk] Reps losing business class (sorry for last post) -- rank: 1000

On Oct 3, 2007, at 11:57 AM, Carl Remick wrote: > Looking back on the Clinton years all I see is speculation and > overinvestmet that created temporary mass wealth and employment that > has now dissipated. I see no reason to celebrate a binge that is > certain to be followed by a purge. Capitalism has no word for > "sustainability." Yeah, except it's managed to grow enormously over several centuries, hasn't it? The second half of the 1990s were the only period in the ...

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Date:	Wed Oct 3 09:20:05 PDT 2007

10133 [lbo-talk] it's looking more like Pres Clinton... -- rank: 1000

On Oct 3, 2007, at 11:56 AM, Marvin Gandall wrote: > Whether Clinton will be similarly destroyed remains to be seen. I can't stand her, but I have to admit she's a far stronger candidate than I would have guessed. She's very smart and has proven quick on her feet. I couldn't force myself to watch the 417 debates they've had so far, but word is that she's won, or at least not lost, every one. She's hardly committed a gaffe. She managed to upstage Obama yesterday, whose big foreign policy ...

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Date:	Wed Oct 3 09:12:39 PDT 2007

10134 [lbo-talk] it's looking more like Pres Clinton... -- rank: 1000

On Oct 3, 2007, at 11:36 AM, Charles Brown wrote: > CB: This seems to indicate Democratic nominee Clinton. Is there a poll > on Clinton vs the Republican candidates ? Most have Hillary ahead, though not as much as a generic Dem: <http://pollingreport.com/wh08gen.htm>. The Iowa Market: <http://128.255.244.60/pricehistory/PriceHistory_GetData.cfm> has a generic Dem beating a Rep, 53-48.

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Oct 3 08:52:05 PDT 2007

10135 [lbo-talk] Reps losing business class (sorry for last post) -- rank: 1000

On Oct 3, 2007, at 11:17 AM, Michael Smith wrote: > On Tue, 2007-10-02 at 16:27 -0400, Doug Henwood wrote: >> And outside the south, there was >> no correlation between income and party vote. Now, income correlates >> closely with party vote. > > Doug, perhaps I'm missing your point here, but doesn't the > correlation you cite demonstrate only that people *think* there's > a difference -- it doesn't really imply anything about the > veracity or well-foundedne ...

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Date:	Wed Oct 3 08:31:06 PDT 2007

10136 [lbo-talk] The Idea of the Third World -- rank: 1000

On Oct 3, 2007, at 9:46 AM, Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: > leaving Iran's foreign policy to the Iranians Ok, I'll observe that policy if you will. Doug

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Date:	Wed Oct 3 08:06:51 PDT 2007

10137 [lbo-talk] Reps losing business class (sorry for last post) -- rank: 1000

On Oct 3, 2007, at 10:17 AM, Wojtek Sokolowski wrote: > Doug: > > I never know what to make of these claims. The Dems often really > suck, but 1) they've always been good imperialists, and 2) though the > New Deal and Great Society are long dead, there are still big > differences between D and R on labor law, minimum wage, tax policy, > and health care. Look at the current fight over expanding the Child > Health program - Ds for, Rs against. As I keep saying, to no appare ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Oct 3 07:49:12 PDT 2007

10138 [lbo-talk] it's looking more like Pres Clinton... -- rank: 1000

<http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/TheNote/story?id=3105288&page=1> So the battle is joined -- and a new poll drops this morning to underscore the trends. This is a very big deal: Clinton, D-N.Y., enjoys her biggest lead of the year in the latest ABC News/Washington Post poll. She's leading 53-20 over Obama, D-Ill., with Edwards, D- N.C. registering at 13 percent. Let the numbers sink in, though this should not be surprising: Clinton is up 13 points since last month (and surpasses the ...

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Date:	Wed Oct 3 06:22:58 PDT 2007

10139 [lbo-talk] end of the Wal-Mart era? -- rank: 1000

Wall Street Journal - October 3, 2007 advertisement TODAY'S MOST POPULAR 1. GOP Is Losing Grip on Core Business Vote 2. Its Creators Call Internet Outdated 3. TD Bank to Buy Commerce Bancorp 4. Hedge Funds May Be Looking to Sell 5. Car Sales Show Signs of Stability MORE PEOPLE WHO READ THIS... Also read these stories: New York Subway Clerks Get Friendly A Virtual View of the Store Aisle Real-Estate Woes Help Apartment REITs Vegas Oddsmakers Play New Sports Role Our Romantic View of Computers Is ...

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Date:	Wed Oct 3 05:28:25 PDT 2007

10140 [lbo-talk] Jeffrey Goldberg, vile hack -- rank: 1000

<http://www.tinyrevolution.com/mt/archives/001776.html> October 03, 2007 Jeffrey Goldberg, Five Years Ago Today Here's Jeffrey Goldberg, then a staff writer at the New Yorker, participating in a debate on Iraq in Slate on October 3, 2002. That was five years ago today: There is not sufficient space...for me to refute some of the arguments made in Slate over the past week against intervention, arguments made, I have noticed, by people with limited experience in the Middle East (Their l ...

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Date:	Wed Oct 3 04:44:35 PDT 2007