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10111 [lbo-talk] who likes Hillary -- rank: 1000

On Oct 4, 2007, at 11:05 AM, Miles Jackson wrote: > Look at it this way: Bill Clinton was popular among African-Americans, > but he supported a number of policies that clearly had a negative > impact > on that group (e.g., welfare reform). I expect the same from Hillary. > If it's politically expedient, she'll piss all over African Americans, > and (if she's as good a politican as her husband) somehow maintain the > adoration of the group she's pissing on. In short: voting ...

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Date:	Thu Oct 4 08:41:11 PDT 2007

10112 [lbo-talk] who likes Hillary -- rank: 1000

On Oct 4, 2007, at 9:32 AM, B. wrote: > The irony was that Carrol Cox was replying to > something -- to state that he does not reply to such > things. Oh yeah Carrol's big on that sorta thing. One of the many reasons he's so lovable! Doug

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Date:	Thu Oct 4 06:51:45 PDT 2007

10113 [lbo-talk] Paul, rhymes with haul -- rank: 1000

<http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/TheNote/story?id=3105288&page=1> But hold on, Rudy -- who's this with the $5 million haul? Dr. No himself -- Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, whose has tapped libertarian and anti-war sentiments inside the GOP with more success than most observers could have imagined. "Long treated at debates as the cantankerous old uncle you don't want to get started talking about the Gold Standard, Paul had big news," write ABC's Jake Tapper and Z. Byron Wolf. &q ...

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Date:	Thu Oct 4 06:38:51 PDT 2007

10114 [lbo-talk] who likes Hillary -- rank: 1000

On Oct 4, 2007, at 8:13 AM, Michael Smith wrote: > On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 07:55 -0400, Doug Henwood wrote: >> the overwhelming majority - and I do mean overwhelming, 85-90% - >> of the black population supports not only Dems, but is very strongly >> behind Hillary Clinton. What does that mean? > > Very little, I'd say. But Doug, do you think it *does* mean > something? If so, what? As a white, relatively well-off leftist who's denounced the Dems as an obstacle to h ...

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Date:	Thu Oct 4 06:02:58 PDT 2007

10115 [lbo-talk] who likes Hillary -- rank: 1000

Not sure what the irony is, but behind my idiotic lie was a serious tweak: Carrol, who repeatedly lectures about the importance of black leadership to any left struggle, and who just as often lectures about the evils of the Democratic party, refuses to think about the fact that the overwhelming majority - and I do mean overwhelming, 85-90% - of the black population supports not only Dems, but is very strongly behind Hillary Clinton. What does that mean? Doug On Oct 4, 2007, at 12:40 AM, B. ...

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Date:	Thu Oct 4 04:55:20 PDT 2007

10116 [lbo-talk] Capitalism and Discourse -- rank: 1000

On Oct 3, 2007, at 9:23 PM, Miles Jackson wrote: > The point that Yoshie and I have made in various ways is that claiming > a sexual orientation is not a personal decision; it is a precipitate > of social relations. Yeah, I know, and I agree. But it seems that there's a growing number of people in the South who have to some degree imported western models of sexuality, and are organizing accordingly where it's legal. Whitaker discussed that in the review that Yoshie hates to much. And ...

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Date:	Wed Oct 3 18:36:55 PDT 2007

10117 [lbo-talk] A list of who is advising each candidate -- rank: 1000

On Oct 3, 2007, at 9:17 PM, Michael Pollak wrote: > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/opinions/documents/the-war- > over-the-wonks.html > > Clinton and Giuliani's lists are both more appalling that I expected. Really? No surprises really that I saw. Clinton's looks like her hubby's. I see Obama has Samantha Power, who just cares so much more than you & I do. Doug

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Date:	Wed Oct 3 18:33:41 PDT 2007

10118 [lbo-talk] Capitalism and Discourse -- rank: 1000

On Oct 3, 2007, at 7:00 PM, BklynMagus wrote: > the onlyh thing to be disgusted by is the dearth of > choices for engaging in sexual expression and joy. > Should people be free to be sexual in the ways of > their own determining? Not if it undermines the struggle against imperialism, silly!

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Date:	Wed Oct 3 16:11:15 PDT 2007

10119 [lbo-talk] general -- rank: 1000

In a Clinton vs. Giuliani Race, a Battle of Competing Legacies Bill Clinton's legacy does at least as much for his wife's presidential ambitions as Rudy Giuliani's 9/11 performance bolsters his -- two subjects sure to dominate if these current frontrunners go on to win their party's presidential nominations. Hillary Clinton currently has the edge in a head-to-head test, with 51 percent support to Giuliani's 43 percent in this ABC News/ Washington Post poll (compared to 49-47 percent early th ...

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Date:	Wed Oct 3 15:48:47 PDT 2007

10120 [lbo-talk] heterodox economics, redux -- rank: 1000

On Oct 3, 2007, at 2:07 PM, Sean Andrews quoted: > * The persistence of straw-man arguments. In a recent book review, > Columbia economist and Nobel laureate Joseph E. Stiglitz, the author > of Globalization and Its Discontents, wrote of Milton Friedman and > others' "belief in the perfection of market economies on models that > assumed perfect information, perfect competition, perfect risk > markets.... They were never based on solid empirical and theoretical > fou ...

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Date:	Wed Oct 3 13:38:24 PDT 2007

10121 [lbo-talk] another view of Hillary -- rank: 1000

Ann Coulter's: <http://www.observer.com/2007/tea-miss-coulter?page=0%2C1> How would she sum up Hillary s campaign strategy? Assume that the loony base secretly knows you are a Marxist, so that you can talk like a moderate Democrat, appeal to the DLC types, and people who are Democrats because their grandparents were Democrats. If Hillary s elected, does she think she ll Impose communism in America? Yes. And I think it s a little worse than that, because I think she has a chip on her sho ...

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Date:	Wed Oct 3 13:16:13 PDT 2007

10122 [lbo-talk] Reps losing business class (sorry for last post) -- rank: 1000

On Oct 3, 2007, at 1:26 PM, Carl Remick wrote: >> Yeah, except it's managed to grow enormously over several centuries, >> hasn't it? > > Several centuries? Then don't you think it's time for a change? I'm all for that. Sadly, there aren't very many people who agree with us. Doug

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Date:	Wed Oct 3 10:46:51 PDT 2007

10123 [lbo-talk] Reps losing business class (sorry for last post) -- rank: 1000

On Oct 3, 2007, at 1:33 PM, Michael Smith wrote: > Carrol, I believe, made the point earlier that there is less to votes > than meets the eye. In particular, votes cast in a safely lost cause > are largely a matter of playing to the gallery without any risk > of upsetting the angels who are funding the production. But that's probably always been true, so the change is still real. > I might have to concede that D's and R's are marketing themselves > to non-identical though exten ...

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Date:	Wed Oct 3 10:46:08 PDT 2007

10124 [lbo-talk] it's looking more like Pres Clinton... -- rank: 1000

On Oct 3, 2007, at 1:21 PM, Andy F wrote: > Even if she's running against Giuliani? yup - I just couldn't pull the lever - I'll vote SWP or something

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Date:	Wed Oct 3 10:35:57 PDT 2007

10125 [lbo-talk] WBAI Arts Special: Howl Against Censorship -- rank: 1000

A special 90 minute program featuring Allen Ginsberg's "Howl" is now available at Pacifica.org. It features a classic reading, and roundtable discussion about the poem and Ginsberg. http://www.pacifica.org/ or directly at, http://www.pacifica.org/program-guide/op,segment-page/station_id,1/ segment_id,469/ Please forward and have a listen, below is part of the release: HOWL AGAINST CENSORSHIP Wednesday, October 3, 2007 Fifty years ago, on October 3, Judge Clayton Horn ruled that Allen G ...

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Date:	Wed Oct 3 10:26:28 PDT 2007