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1006 [lbo-talk] Keith Olbermann calls on Mayor Quan to resign -- rank: 1000

On Oct 28, 2011, at 8:16 AM, Wojtek S wrote: > one would expect Quan, a liberal Democrat with professed > sympathy toward OWS goals, allow the protest to go uninterrupted, > while Bloomberg, a pro business Republican, use any means necessary > to quash it. In reality, the opposite happened - the liberal Democrat > unleashed her police dogs on the protesters at the first opportune > moment, whereas the pro-business Republican allowed the protest to go > more or less uninter ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri Oct 28 07:15:38 PDT 2011

1007 [lbo-talk] Thin blue line? -- rank: 1000

On Oct 28, 2011, at 8:42 AM, Wojtek S wrote: > http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/28/nyregion/16-officers-ordered-to-surrender-in-ticket-fixing.html?_r=1&ref=nyregion > > " About 60 off-duty officers crowded in the main foyer to support > their comrades. They formed a human wall, four-deep, between reporters > and the some of the accused officers as they came out of a hallway. At > three different times, when three of the accused men showed their > faces, the crowd burs ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri Oct 28 07:05:11 PDT 2011

1008 [lbo-talk] Tuesday evening report from OWS -- rank: 1000

On Oct 27, 2011, at 9:55 PM, Michael Smith wrote: > But clearly, Doug, she too has really annoyed > some of us. You can't seriously think this > comes out of nowhere? She's taken a strong > position, which is very much to her credit as far > as it goes. But good Lord, how old is she? > > One has the sense of a person still groping > her way, and badly handicapped by a glib > pomo vocabulary and perhaps also an elite-college > feeling that she's got to be smartest p ...

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Date:	Thu Oct 27 19:00:54 PDT 2011

1009 [lbo-talk] Tuesday evening report from OWS -- rank: 1000

On Oct 27, 2011, at 9:00 PM, Carrol Cox wrote: > I like, and have entertained in my home, many people who have no political sense. It doesn't change my liking them, nor does it make me change my political sense. I like, and have entertained in my home, Jodi Dean, not only because I personally like her, which I do, but because I like talking with her and reading her about politics. The level of hostility directed at her here really annoys me. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Oct 27 18:11:16 PDT 2011

1010 [lbo-talk] Tuesday evening report from OWS -- rank: 1000

On Oct 27, 2011, at 8:49 PM, shag carpet bomb wrote: > It is the most assinine behavior because it is an attempt to halt > reasoned debate. As opposed to talking about your turds.

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Oct 27 18:04:20 PDT 2011

1011 [lbo-talk] Keith Olbermann calls on Mayor Quan to resign -- rank: 1000

On Oct 27, 2011, at 6:22 PM, Wojtek S wrote: > I do not think that there is any venue for the "99%" to be heard other > than massive civil disobedience. The US is "democracy" is a ruse. Yay. Welcome to the club, man.

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Date:	Thu Oct 27 17:06:30 PDT 2011

1012 [lbo-talk] Tuesday evening report from OWS -- rank: 1000

On Oct 27, 2011, at 7:39 PM, Dennis Claxton wrote: > Mine would be that a day or two or go you were asking who Jodi Dean was and now suddenly you know her well enough to brand her a red-hot sternly orthodox Leninist, who is moving her way down the academic ladder. And all that based on apparently slippery reading of her blog. Man, people do love to hate on Jodi. Me, I like her a lot. She's even slept in our guest room, and is always welcome to return. Doug

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Date:	Thu Oct 27 16:54:29 PDT 2011

1013 [lbo-talk] enemy's turf -- rank: 1000

On Oct 27, 2011, at 11:34 AM, Eric Beck wrote: > On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> wrote: > >> I could swear it was stormed because it was a symbol of despotism and repression. > > Precisely. And electronics stores in poor neighborhoods are a daily > experienced symbol of contemporary capitalism's global circuits of > production, distribution, and consumption. People want TVs. They don't want to be in prison.

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Date:	Thu Oct 27 09:55:25 PDT 2011

1014 [lbo-talk] enemy's turf -- rank: 1000

On Oct 27, 2011, at 11:12 AM, Shane Mage wrote: > But the Bastille was not stormed because it was a prison. > It was virtually empty, with but a handful of prisoners left inside. > The Bastille was stormed because it was a fortress. I could swear it was stormed because it was a symbol of despotism and repression. Doug

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Date:	Thu Oct 27 08:22:18 PDT 2011

1015 [lbo-talk] enemy's turf -- rank: 1000

On Oct 27, 2011, at 10:09 AM, Eric Beck wrote: > On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 8:53 AM, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> wrote: >> >> On Oct 27, 2011, at 9:47 AM, Michael Smith wrote: >> >>> I feel sure ZZZZ would have deplored the storming of the Bastille. >> >> Why? Storming a prison is a lot different from storming a consumer electronics store. > > In 1789, sure. But what about today? Oh, right. The consumer society, such a trap, just like b ...

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Date:	Thu Oct 27 07:31:53 PDT 2011

1016 [lbo-talk] enemy's turf -- rank: 1000

On Oct 27, 2011, at 9:47 AM, Michael Smith wrote: > I feel sure ZZZZ would have deplored the storming of the Bastille. Why? Storming a prison is a lot different from storming a consumer electronics store. Doug

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Date:	Thu Oct 27 06:53:38 PDT 2011

1017 [lbo-talk] Tuesday evening report from OWS -- rank: 1000

On Oct 26, 2011, at 8:09 PM, Dennis Claxton wrote: > Michael S. wrote: > >> To which I can only add that Gothamist is hardly a source of illumination, or even accurate information. You'd expect an on-the-make academic Communaster like Dean to choose her auctores a bit better. > > > That's not where she got it. It came from n+1: > > http://nplusonemag.com/monday-night-urgent-ows-message I think I know the original author, who's totally sound, as we used to say in the P ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Oct 26 17:25:22 PDT 2011

1018 [lbo-talk] OWS Demands working group: jobs for all! -- rank: 1000

On Oct 26, 2011, at 2:12 PM, Carrol Cox wrote: > Those who have supported it have supported it as a good thing to have. In other words their posts would make sense as testimony before a Congressional Committee -- but that is all. They have NOT said anything at all about strategy or tactics. So big guy, what's your suggestion? Doug

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Date:	Wed Oct 26 14:00:28 PDT 2011

1019 [lbo-talk] madness in Oakland -- rank: 1000

On Oct 26, 2011, at 2:26 PM, Carrol Cox wrote: > The police do not make these decisons; they are made by higher-ups. The Police carry them out with delight, but they are only carrying out decisions made elsewhere, by civilian authorities. I'll be interviewing the sociologist Alex Vitale, who studies cops and political power, for this week's radio show. One point Alex made when I emailed with him this morning: urban Dem machines are just as repressive as the right. Oh, and since Seattle and 9/ ...

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Date:	Wed Oct 26 13:58:52 PDT 2011

1020 [lbo-talk] Financial Times article warns of Mob Rule, Hitler... -- rank: 1000

On Oct 26, 2011, at 2:14 PM, Ferenc Molnar wrote: > Piece by Ray Dalio, founder of Bridgewater Associates, world's largest hedge fund: Long ago, I used to talk to Dalio now & then on the phone. Smart fellow. He got super rich and kind of went around the bend. Doug

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Date:	Wed Oct 26 13:42:31 PDT 2011