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211 Anti-War Movements -- rank: 1000

At 18/10/01 00:25 -0400, Chris wrote: >Please share. We'd all love to know how this leads us Forward To The >Revolution. > >Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 23:33:12 -0400 >Subject: Re: Anti-War Movements > >There are good reasons to smash windows. I'm not sure if many of the >academics on the list understand these reasons other than on a >superficial level. On 6th October I forwarded an item by Lenin on terrorism and what I called mass struggle, but he called "street demon ...

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Date:	Thu Oct 18 00:12:07 PDT 2001

212 Anti-War Movements -- rank: 1000

At 17/10/01 09:21 -0400, Yoshie wrote: > The U.S. government have & will commit terrors, train terrorists, & > support terrorist networks when they are useful to it. The present war > -- whose main casualties will be civilians in Afghanistan, U.N. workers > clearing land-mines, Red-Cross workers, etc. -- is being waged to manage > the fallouts of neoliberal capitalism (e.g., failed or failing states on > the periphery) through the expansion of Empire, restore confiden ...

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Date:	Wed Oct 17 16:41:48 PDT 2001

213 Anti-War Movements -- rank: 1000

At 16/10/01 22:34 -0500, Carrol wrote: >the material reality is that the >U.S. is in the process of killing hundreds directly and dooming 10s of >thousands to death, none of whom are in the least connected, directly or >indirectly, with the 9/11 attacks. but on 16 Oct 2001 18:06:50 -0500 From: Carrol Cox <cbcox at ilstu.edu> >There is absolutely nothing, nothing whatever, that we can do now that >will have any effect on U.S. government actions within the next 12 >month ...

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Date:	Wed Oct 17 00:20:53 PDT 2001

214 Anti-War Movements -- rank: 1000

At 16/10/01 18:06 -0500, you wrote: >The plural is important here. > >No anti-war movement ever has stopped a war in any of its early stages, >nor will any anti-war movement _ever_ wucceed in that. > >There is absolutely nothing, nothing whatever, that we can do now that >will have any effect on U.S. government actions within the next 12 >months or so. This is axiomatic and other assumptions can merely be >ignorned as childishness. > >Carrol While it is right tha ...

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Date:	Tue Oct 16 16:33:10 PDT 2001

215 New Taliban offer - Guardian -- rank: 1000

Tomorrow, Wednesday's Guardian has a front page reporting that the Taliban have repeated their offer to hand bin Laden over to a neutral country, but this time without insisting on special briefing on the evidence. This offer is in the interests of the people of the world, and of the USA. The USA should accept, avoid a martyr, agree to a United Nations procedure for any trial and concentrate on defensive measures to restrict the danger of terrorism, and to solve regional and global problems on a ...

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Author:	Chris Burford
Date:	Tue Oct 16 15:40:28 PDT 2001

216 "War against terrorism will fail" -- rank: 1000

From the Independent http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/story.jsp?story=99722 War against terrorism will fail, says former MI5 head By Tahira Yaqoob 16 October 2001 President Bush's war against global terrorism is destined for failure, the former head of MI5, Stella Rimington, warned yesterday. Dame Stella, who was speaking about the military action in Afghanistan, said that terrorism could never be wiped out altogether. And she warned that there could be a repeat of the attack on New ...

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Author:	Chris Burford
Date:	Mon Oct 15 23:27:38 PDT 2001

217 Fall of Railtrack -- rank: 1000

THe New Labour Government seems actually to be enjoying the fall of Railtrack, one of the companies into which British Rail was privatised. This may be a turning point in perceptions about privatisation. So much so that British Finance Capital is signalling that the government may make it far more difficult for itself to raise funds in the future. Despite having an official who embarrassingly sent an e-mail shortly after the WTC attack saying this was a good time to bury bad stories, unapologeti ...

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Date:	Mon Oct 15 16:33:15 PDT 2001

218 Was Hitler gay? -- rank: 1000

One of the puzzling things about this was why this is not a more prominent feature of the psychodynamic profile by Langer for the US Office of Strategic Services in 1943, but I have not been able to search the whole document. This particular report was not published at all till 1972, and it may reflect that it was more convenient for the western powers to present Hitler as an example of utter evil, than a complex individual in a complex psycho-social, political and economic, environment. In 199 ...

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Date:	Sun Oct 14 11:35:14 PDT 2001

219 20,000 + demonstrate in London -- rank: 1000

At 13/10/01 20:16 -0400, you wrote: >I read the article and read no mention of Christians. Now I'm sure they >were there but there were also atheists and Jews or Jewish atheists, which >is probably more apt a description of most Jews today who tend towards >freethinking in greater numbers than most as encouraged by tradition - but >Chris I think you probably meant to include everyone, regardless of >religion or heritage who opposes war? I know what you mean, but I did not mean ...

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Date:	Sun Oct 14 02:24:01 PDT 2001

220 20,000 + demonstrate in London -- rank: 1000

Christians and Muslims contributed to a demonstration in London against the war ,organised by the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament. Police estimates are usually low, but were given as over 20,000. http://www.guardian.co.uk/waronterror/story/0,1361,573529,00.html Chris Burford London

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Author:	Chris Burford
Date:	Sat Oct 13 15:42:22 PDT 2001

221 US poll: public sees danger of making bin Laden a martyr -- rank: 1000

NSBC networked in Europe, today reports a newsweek opinion poll that shows the majority of the US sample in favour of follow up ground attacks, realising that air attacks will not succeed. A slight majority is in favour of sepcialist units rather than a full scale ground war. But on follow-up questioning a slight majority agree that capturing bin Laden will make him a martyr. >ABC poll yesterday showed according to the Guardian: > >Two-thirds in US fear escalation into wider war > &g ...

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Author:	Chris Burford
Date:	Sat Oct 13 09:58:09 PDT 2001

222 "Clerical fascism" was Re: Steve Perry weighs in -- rank: 1000

I missed Chips' post and I am not sure that "clerical fascism" is the best way of describing the Taliban regime but I I think the arguments put here are too narrow to be helpful. This theme repeatedly recycles and I think not just as a result of sloppiness of ignorance. I suggest a key concept in the transition from precapitalist to capitalist societies and from them to socialism is that of bourgeois democratic rights. People are not being wholly unscientific in looking at regimes that ...

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Date:	Thu Oct 11 23:35:56 PDT 2001

223 the anthrax connection -- rank: 1000

Interesting that at a time when the US government is trying to project and externalise a concept of the evil of terrorism onto an entity out there, there is evidence of biological terrorism within an office in the US. This emphasises how guarding against violence, whether from misuse of handguns, unabomber isolates, or militia groups, is a also problem of domestic policing. But in addition that the world has become home too: the amount of interchange between the US and other parts of the world i ...

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Author:	Chris Burford
Date:	Wed Oct 10 23:03:17 PDT 2001

224 London haven for bin Laden money -- rank: 1000

City 'A Haven For Bin Laden Money Laundering' Those mean French, trying to attack British business credibility on such an important issue as this! Probably they are not really even socialists. They just want to get some competitive advantage for French business! http://www.guardian.co.uk/uklatest/story/0,1271,-1230411,00.html Osama bin Laden's extensive financial web in Britain has been detailed in a report published by the French parliament,. The report also criticises the City of London for be ...

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Date:	Wed Oct 10 15:54:49 PDT 2001

225 9/11 -- rank: 1000

At 09/10/01 17:21 -0500, you wrote: >Why does "9/11" refer to the terrorist attacks on the WTC and Pentagon >rather than the overthrow of the elected government of Salvador Allende? >Does it have to do with the relative importance of each? > >Cheers, Ken Hanly 9/11 looks like the fall of the Berlin Wall to me. Chris Burford London

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Date:	Tue Oct 9 16:46:31 PDT 2001