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1051 Debtors and Creditors -- rank: 1000

At 12:54 09/04/99 -0400, you wrote: >Henry C.K. Liu wrote: > >>Asian solution will come from creating Asian institutions to supplant >>the unresponsive global institutions within which Asian economies are >>increasingly put at a competitive disadvantage. Grass root resistance to >>American demands for trade liberalization will force Asian leaders to >>seek Asian regional solutions, perhaps a yen based currency regime with >>an Asian Monetary Fund. > & ...

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Author:	Chris Burford
Date:	Fri Apr 9 15:30:41 PDT 1999

1052 Opening Borders -- rank: 1000

At 09:24 08/04/99 +0100, Jim H wrote: > >Chris' posts are full of sound and fury, but signify nothing. He says >that I support Serb fascism. He can draw that conclusion if he wants, >but I just can't make any sense of it. The government of Serbia may be >reactionary, but it is not fascist, and I don't support it. Like Max's >promiscuous use of the word 'genocide' Chris's rhetorical denunciations >of fascism only indicate that his argument is a little weak. Let me turn to the ...

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Author:	Chris Burford
Date:	Thu Apr 8 16:00:16 PDT 1999

1053 Opening Borders -- rank: 1000

At 01:28 07/04/99 +0100, Jim Heartfield wrote: <snip> >In message <3.0.2.32.19990405182732.00d37ed8 at pop.gn.apc.org>, Chris >Burford <cburford at gn.apc.org> writes >>This is merely describing the shift from an imperialist policy of >>appeasement of fascism to an imperialist policy of confronting fascism. It >>is not an argument for opposing the more progressive of those two policies. > >Doug already commented on this, but it is characteristic of ...

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Author:	Chris Burford
Date:	Wed Apr 7 23:52:40 PDT 1999

1054 Banana War over? -- rank: 1000

Yesterday the European Union announced it would in principle accept the WTO ruling on the banana wars. This may be because although favourable to the US it was not as favourable as they had hoped. We will now see whether the money the EU had set aside to support its manufacturers will be diverted to the Caribbean as regional development aid to help the Caribbean countries diversify their economies! But as the Caribbean countries were not granted to right by the WTO to be treated as full protagon ...

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Author:	Chris Burford
Date:	Thu Apr 8 00:01:05 PDT 1999

1055 "WWIII vs Vietnam" -- rank: 1000

At 14:39 07/04/99 -0400, you wrote: >Chris Burford wrote: > >>The illogicality of continuing massive bombardments of the whole of Serbia >>while delaying for logistical reasons the arrival of Apaches that could >>concentrate only on the territory of Kosovo is not challenged in public. > >Sort of calls your cheerleading for the NATO humanitarians into question, >doesn't it? Sometimes what appears "illogical" is actually logical once you >understand th ...

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Author:	Chris Burford
Date:	Wed Apr 7 15:55:00 PDT 1999

1056 "WWIII vs Vietnam" -- rank: 1000

>Barkley was right in an earlier post -- saying in essence that this is >the battle of the wars, WWII vs. Vietnam. Having spent my formative >years in the anti(Vietnam)war movement, I look at what's happening in >Kosovo and think of one word, escalation, and all the evils that >followed in its train 30 years ago. Chris (and much of the UK, I >gather) look at Kosovo and have the exact same reflex, substituting >"appeasement" for "escalation" and reflecti ...

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Author:	Chris Burford
Date:	Wed Apr 7 00:24:52 PDT 1999

1057 Banana War -- rank: 1000

The US has just won a ruling from the WTO in the banana war allowing it to impose $200 million trade sanctions on European products. It is interesting this is going on while the NATO allies are coordinating a massive military campaign. The response in the UK from the Blair government has been to play it down. It has announced that it will compensate the Scottish cashmere industry for the full value of the increased duties. This is important because much of their sales are in the US, and because ...

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Author:	Chris Burford
Date:	Wed Apr 7 00:09:10 PDT 1999

1058 Ostracism of war as a means of politics -- rank: 1000

At 22:25 05/04/99 +0200, Hinrich wrote: >Those who support the war of aggression against Yugoslavia charge the >opponents to this war of not answering questions about atrocities. An >example for the conclusion of such an argumentation: > >>I consider the war of the Albanians of Kosovo for their independence to be >>a just war. >> >>It is quite right that public ministers should be carefully >>cross-questioned about their evidence. But I consider that the ...

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Author:	Chris Burford
Date:	Tue Apr 6 14:30:47 PDT 1999

1059 Burford's post re Yoshie -- rank: 1000

I want to make some things clear. I do not support imperialist war. Of course not. Not in the sense of a war of oppression by an imperialist ruling class against an oppressed nation. Many will say, Oh yes you do, and it will be self-evidently so to them. I have laid out my own views as far as the views of any one individual count, in the post I forwarded on Workers Aid to Kosovo. That spells out the basis on which I considered defence of the right to self-determination of the Kosovans to be pro ...

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Author:	Chris Burford
Date:	Tue Apr 6 12:58:00 PDT 1999

1060 G Frank on NATO HYPOCRISY IN YUGOSLAVIA -- rank: 1000

At 13:39 05/04/99 -0400, Doug wrote: >Chris Burford wrote: > >>This is merely describing the shift from an imperialist policy of >>appeasement of fascism to an imperialist policy of confronting fascism. > >This is one of the more ridiculous things I've read all week, When feelings are rightly high, it does not help impatiently to dismiss others arguments as absurd. The biggest reason why the imperialist powers are responsible for what is happening currently to the Albania ...

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Author:	Chris Burford
Date:	Mon Apr 5 15:26:14 PDT 1999

1061 Mirjana Milosevic - quote -- rank: 1000

Jim Heartfield wrote on 4th April: > 'Social fascist' is a concept that was an >intrinsic part of Stalinist political science, but was rejected by those >who did not have to justify the policy of physical attacks on the German >SPD in collusion with the NSDAP. 'Social fascist' is not a concept it is >a meaningless slander directed by Stalinists against working class >organisations. > >>if they overlook an analysis of the >>formation that has given rise to Bosnia ...

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Author:	Chris Burford
Date:	Mon Apr 5 14:07:32 PDT 1999

1062 G Frank on NATO HYPOCRISY IN YUGOSLAVIA -- rank: 1000

For me Gunder Frank was most important for his attempts to analyse unequal exchange in the process of uneven development on a world scale, although my impression is he failed because of lack of a sufficiently dynamic model of global value. I did not expect to agree with it, but this article is a big disappointment. All capitalist governments are hypocritical. It is obligatory to challenge them on this every time. But it does not make the present war fundamentally an unjust war. Rather a progress ...

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Author:	Chris Burford
Date:	Mon Apr 5 10:27:32 PDT 1999

1063 The victory of the cruise missle liberals -- rank: 1000

At 19:28 02/04/99 -0800, Michael Perelman wrote: >I am sorry to see Yoshie go. As far as vicious tyrants go, Milo. and S. >Hussain rank about a 7 or 8 on a scale of 10. Butchery in Central America >(say in Guatamala) would rank higher in infamy. <snip> >The socialist movement was gaining enormous strength at the beginning of >the century. World War I caused a similar split among the left, between >those that supported and opposed the war. The socialist movement in the ...

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Author:	Chris Burford
Date:	Sun Apr 4 15:27:10 PDT 1999

1064 Mrs Milosevic -- rank: 1000

One of the imperialist and foolish features of the NATO led war, is the demonisation of Milosevic. While I certainly agree there is evidence to try him for war crimes and crimes against humanity, it is typical of western militarist enterprises, to try to personalise the individual. Compare the treatment of Hussein. It is quite clear that Milosevic could not have done all this alone. There is a 20 years history of growing nationalist and chauvinist attitudes penetrating the former League of Commu ...

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Author:	Chris Burford
Date:	Sun Apr 4 04:25:46 PDT 1999

1065 Workers Aid to Kosovo -- rank: 1000

Sky this morning had an interview with a young woman representative of "Workers' Aid to Kosovo", which was fairly impressive. It had the same line as Workers' Aid to Bosnia, which has been mentioned before by Hugh Rodwell, and is an off-shoot of that organisation. The plan was for a convoy of material aid to workers in Kosovo. They would attempt to cross the Montenegrin border. If stopped there, which seemed likely, they would distribute the aid to refugees there. She stressed that thi ...

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Author:	Chris Burford
Date:	Sun Apr 4 00:35:08 PST 1999