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766 #103 -- rank: 1000

Was the .pdf of #103 sent already? Bryan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carrol Cox" <cbcox at ilstu.edu> To: <lbo-talk at lists.panix.com> Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 9:32 AM Subject: Re: #103 > > > David Schanoes wrote: > > > > Huh? Does this include African-American baby-boomers? Or don't they count? > > > > What a bunch of crap. History based on advertising demographics.... > > > > If I remember correctly, almost a ...

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Author:	Bryan Atinsky
Date:	Sun Dec 29 07:18:24 PST 2002

767 weird Hitchens comments on Israel -- rank: 1000

Peter K: "I doubt he would say Arafat is the main thing. Bush was the first US President to say "Palestinian state."" Calling for a 'Palestinian State' is the present rhetoric of legitimacy in Middle Eastern foreign policy. Just the same as all existing and coming gov. regimes (even from a coup d'etat) need to legitimate themselves with the rhetoric of 'democracy'. The important factor to look at isn't whether Bush said 'Palestinian State', it is to look at what he means by ...

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Author:	Bryan Atinsky
Date:	Mon Dec 2 22:06:21 PST 2002

768 Peaceful, joint Arab/Jewish demonstration organized by Ta'ayush violently turned away at Bethlehem roadblock -- rank: 1000

I just noticed on Commondreams...the article at the top: "US Peace Activists Prevented from entering the West Bank" http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0811-01.htm The picture on the bottom right of the article from AP: "An Israeli soldier kicks a peace activist at an Israeli checkpoint "...That peace activist is me flying to the ground with the sign "Freedom For Both Peoples" in my hand. My chest was where his feet are in the picture, so you can see how muc ...

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Author:	Bryan Atinsky
Date:	Sun Aug 11 14:28:41 PDT 2002

769 Peaceful, joint Arab/Jewish demonstration organized by Ta'ayush violently turned away at Bethlehem roadblock -- rank: 1000

Hey all, I wrote this about the Ta'ayush demonstration today between Jerusalem and Bethlehem. Cops went wild with violence, and they looked sincerly happy doing it. btw, I was the one who got kicked in the chest with bruised ribs. If fuckin' hurt. Bryan There are pictures here. http://www.indymedia.org.il/imc/israel/webcast/34934.html ========== Peaceful, joint Arab/Jewish demonstration organized by Ta'ayush violently turned away at Bethlehem roadblock By: Bryan Atinsky, Indymedia Israel Aug. ...

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Date:	Sat Aug 10 11:52:42 PDT 2002

770 Gore did it to himself..("The Real Two Party System", an essay from the one true Gore) -- rank: 1000

Speaking of Gores, this discussion reminded me of an essay from the one truely good Gore (Gore Vidal that is) . I have been reading his book of essays (approx. 80% of his essays written between 1952-1992), titled "United States" of late, and definitely reccomend it. Bryan -------------------------------------------------- THE REAL TWO PARTY SYSTEM Gore Vidal The Los Angeles Times, 26th October, 1980 In the United States there are two political parties of equal size. One is the party t ...

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Date:	Thu Aug 8 02:43:59 PDT 2002

771 Economic Blah-Blah on CNBC Europe -- rank: 1000

Some Scottish economic analyst was just on CNBC Europe. The interviewer asked him about signs of a weakness in the trend of consumer spending in the US. The analyst replied that consumer spending in the US actually seems quite strong, it is just that the consumer is much more selective about where and how much of his money he will spend. Further he stated that people are becoming more picky about what stocks to invest in or whether to put money into the market at all. He then reaffirmed the s ...

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Author:	Bryan Atinsky
Date:	Fri Aug 2 01:05:46 PDT 2002

772 Special 'Witnesses of War' edition of "Khan" Magazine -- rank: 1000

Hi all, IMC-Israel's print team just finished translating into English a PDF version of our Hebrew bi-monthly Magazine "Khan"... Bryan --------------------------------------------- http://www.indymedia.org.il/can/canwareng.pdf English translation of the special witnesses of war edition of "Khan" (tran. 'Here'), the bi-monthly magazine of the Independent Media Center of Israel. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <../attachments/2 ...

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Date:	Tue Apr 30 12:43:15 PDT 2002

773 Israel Shamir: the beginning of the end of the Jewish post-war ascendancy? -- rank: 1000

Michael, Maybe I misread you, but if you are saying that Indymedia uses the term Zionazism, I think you are mistaken. It is true that there are many articles published to the newswire with this line (along with ultra-right-wing pro-zionist dribble, and everything in between), but that is not true of Indymedia qua Indymedia. Looking specifically at Indymedia Israel's feature section, I think that one would find the selection of articles cannot be defined as giving the Zionazi line or as inflamma ...

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Date:	Sat Apr 27 05:04:19 PDT 2002

774 CEO of Timberland says "Israeli message is not reaching US" -- rank: 1000

http://www.indymedia.org.il/imc/israel/webcast/display.php3?article_id=25444 JPost: Timberland boss: Israeli message is not reaching US >>>>"Did I come here as a Jew and as the CEO of Timberland? Yes."<<<< Dear friends, I'm appalled at how a US CEO of a publicly traded company can make such remarks! See full story below. May I suggest that upon his return to the US he be greeted with a few thousand letters and a few peaceful demonstrations at Timberland retail s ...

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Date:	Fri Apr 26 09:58:33 PDT 2002

775 Humanitarian Appeal: Provision of Water for Palestinian Homes -- rank: 1000

Humanitarian Appeal: Provision of Water for Palestinian Homes Please donate $50 to provide water for a family. Friends of the Earth Middle East s project Good Water Neighbors and ANERA (American Near East Refugee Aid) are launching an appeal to replace damaged or destroyed water tanks in Palestinian cities and villages. In most Palestinian towns there is no constant supply of running water from the main water pipes. The water mains run intermittently -- often only once a week. For many village ...

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Date:	Mon Apr 22 14:08:14 PDT 2002

776 old Sharon interview -- rank: 1000

If Amos Oz was acting to protect the identity of 'Z', and it WAS Sharon, and he was asked by a reporter whether it was Sharon or not, the only way to protect the identity is to state that it wasn't Sharon (or to say, maybe yes maybe no, which would also be close to an affirmative). So it really still says nothing. Bryan ----- Original Message ----- From: "reed tryte" <dttdhmtp at yahoo.com> To: <lbo-talk at lists.panix.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 6:42 AM Subject: R ...

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Date:	Wed Apr 17 05:28:53 PDT 2002

777 Trade, Environment and the Mediterranean Free Trade Zone (MFTZ) -- rank: 1000

To all economists and economic minded people on the list. A friend of mine asked me for some help in gathering decent information in reply to the following assesment given by an Argicultural Economics professor. Friends of the Earth Middle East (FoEME) have written a study on the possible Environmental impacts of the MFTZ on the region. A professor of Agricultural Economics in Israel replied (copy below) to the Executive summary of the Study. It would be interesting to get some comments about h ...

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Date:	Sun Apr 14 02:46:34 PDT 2002

778 Demonstration across from the American Embassy in Tel-Aviv -- rank: 1000

Hey all, I just got back from a joint Arab and Jewish Israeli demonstration across from the American Embassy in Tel-Aviv (situated on the sea-shore) set for the occasion of Secretary of State Powell's visit. I would guess that there were 600 people there altogether, of which perhaps 200 or more were Israeli Palestinians. The demonstration was made up of a coalition of several activist groups, including: Ta'ayush, Union of Arab Community Based Associations, Gush Shalom, Arab Student Coalition, In ...

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Date:	Fri Apr 12 09:51:43 PDT 2002

779 Palestine, aka, The right list -- rank: 1000

Hey Greg, Greg, Just wanted to thank you for reading well beyond what I stated and for arguing against me for things I never said. My statement was directly in reply to Michael's which said that the one state solution was: "against the best either of them is willing to contemplate selling to their people." As Michael acknowledged in his reply to my comment, his statement was a bit too 'symetrical'. The fact of the case is that Israel's backing of the two state solution is directly con ...

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Date:	Wed Apr 10 04:24:54 PDT 2002

780 Palestine, aka, The right list -- rank: 1000

Michael stated: "Arguing for a single state in the current climate is arguing against the forces of compromise on both sides -- against the best either of them is willing to contemplate selling to their people." I somewhat disagree with this analysis. What you say is definitely the case for the Israeli side at the moment. The vast majority of Israelis would never agree to live in one state with the Palestinians where all would have de jure and de facto equal rights, and where the Pale ...

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Date:	Wed Apr 10 00:43:38 PDT 2002