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  <title><![CDATA[[lbo-talk] the decline of men]]></title>
  <author><![CDATA[123hop at comcast.net]]></author>
  <pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 22:06:45 GMT</pubDate>
  <link>http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2011/2011-April/004565.html</link>
  <description><![CDATA[Again, speaking from experience, in their youth men never cop to any kind of homoerotic activity; but when they get older, say, early forties, everybody seems to have at least one story to tell. So, my wild guess is that there's a lot more of that going on than men let on. I don't see why FMF is a sophomoric fantasy. Seems to me a good all-around fantasy and, given the right people and the right circumstances, even a good all around experience. J. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Wesley" <godisamethodist at yahoo.com> No, absolutely not, Joanna. However, there always remains that age-old taboo about men having any physical contact.  I've even had other men refuse to just touch hands at folk dances, of all things!  Of course, the FFM always does remain the ultimate fantasy dream for the more sophomoric minded of the XY's (lol). Mike G ________________________________ From: "123hop at comcast.net" <123hop at comcast.net> To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org Sent: Thu, April 21, 2011 4:49]]></description>
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  <author><![CDATA[John Wesley]]></author>
  <pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 21:56:11 GMT</pubDate>
  <link>http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2011/2011-April/004561.html</link>
  <description><![CDATA[No, absolutely not, Joanna. However, there always remains that age-old taboo about men having any physical contact.  I've even had other men refuse to just touch hands at folk dances, of all things!  Of course, the FFM always does remain the ultimate fantasy dream for the more sophomoric minded of the XY's (lol). Mike G ________________________________ From: "123hop at comcast.net" <123hop at comcast.net> To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org Sent: Thu, April 21, 2011 4:49:17 PM Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] the decline of men My experience with threesomes is actually extremely limited. And, based on this extremely limited experience, I would say that FMF was better than MFM because with MFM, the guys would have nothing to do with one another sexually; whereas with FMF, every permutation was allowable. However, there is nothing that says that an MFM situation has to necessarily preclude sex between the male participants. In that case, it might be just as interesting. Joanna ----- Original Message ---]]></description>
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  <author><![CDATA[123hop at comcast.net]]></author>
  <pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 21:49:17 GMT</pubDate>
  <link>http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2011/2011-April/004560.html</link>
  <description><![CDATA[My experience with threesomes is actually extremely limited. And, based on this extremely limited experience, I would say that FMF was better than MFM because with MFM, the guys would have nothing to do with one another sexually; whereas with FMF, every permutation was allowable. However, there is nothing that says that an MFM situation has to necessarily preclude sex between the male participants. In that case, it might be just as interesting. Joanna ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Wesley" <godisamethodist at yahoo.com> ...and from your apparently extensive experience, Joanna, which configuration of threesome do you find is more terrific, MFM or MMF ? Mike ________________________________ From: "123hop at comcast.net" <123hop at comcast.net> To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org Sent: Thu, April 14, 2011 7:22:37 PM Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] the decline of men Exactly. The intensity is about the interaction. That is, the greatest turn on is the sexual energy/excitement of your partner. A]]></description>
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  <title><![CDATA[[lbo-talk] the decline of men]]></title>
  <author><![CDATA[John Wesley]]></author>
  <pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 21:26:46 GMT</pubDate>
  <link>http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2011/2011-April/004556.html</link>
  <description><![CDATA[...and from your apparently extensive experience, Joanna, which configuration of threesome do you find is more terrific, MFM or MMF ? Mike ________________________________ From: "123hop at comcast.net" <123hop at comcast.net> To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org Sent: Thu, April 14, 2011 7:22:37 PM Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] the decline of men Exactly. The intensity is about the interaction. That is, the greatest turn on is the sexual energy/excitement of your partner. As you feel that, it amplifies your own, which in turn feeds theirs, which amplifies your own. A virtuous cycle one might say. In fact, ahem. This is why a threesome can be so terrific. Even more energy. Joanna ----- Original Message ----- From: "shag carpet bomb" <shag at cleandraws.com> To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org, lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 4:44:06 PM Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] the decline of men seriously. i was gonna say that the multiple orgasms are way better without that. I mean, if it's just to g]]></description>
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  <author><![CDATA[123hop at comcast.net]]></author>
  <pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2011 00:22:37 GMT</pubDate>
  <link>http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2011/2011-April/004347.html</link>
  <description><![CDATA[Exactly. The intensity is about the interaction. That is, the greatest turn on is the sexual energy/excitement of your partner. As you feel that, it amplifies your own, which in turn feeds theirs, which amplifies your own. A virtuous cycle one might say. In fact, ahem. This is why a threesome can be so terrific. Even more energy. Joanna ----- Original Message ----- From: "shag carpet bomb" <shag at cleandraws.com> To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org, lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 4:44:06 PM Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] the decline of men seriously. i was gonna say that the multiple orgasms are way better without that. I mean, if it's just to get your rocks off, typically, one's enough with a device. But when you're with someone else, *that's* when multiple orgasms are best: the intensity is about the interaction. When someone's really into encouraging you along... well. 'nuff said! aside from which, which kind: the one right after another one kind? Or the fact that we dno]]></description>
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  <title><![CDATA[[lbo-talk] threesome advice]]></title>
  <author><![CDATA[Dorene Cornwell]]></author>
  <pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 00:58:13 GMT</pubDate>
  <link>http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2008/2008-December/021648.html</link>
  <description><![CDATA[I cannot find the most recently accreted piece of mental lint on this topic but for more than you might think you want to know, go to www.thestranger.com and type threesome into the search bar. What specitic item was I going to post? I will leave that to your imagination..... DC On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Jordan Hayes <jmhayes at j-o-r-d-a-n.com>wrote: >  And I completely missed this thread!  Gotta adjust my email filter-- >> > > You can always just subscribe to an RSS feed: > > http://search.lbo-talk.org/search/feed?msg=threesome > > :-) > > /jordan > > ___________________________________ > http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/mailman/listinfo/lbo-talk >]]></description>
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  <author><![CDATA[Ismail Lagardien]]></author>
  <pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 21:30:46 GMT</pubDate>
  <link>http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2008/2008-December/021641.html</link>
  <description><![CDATA[the problem with this threesome advices is..... it does not help "onesome" or "alonesome" the metaphysics of which can be quite mindblowing - the only blowing that does take place, if you know what i mean. Aluta Continua! ________________________________ From: John Gulick <john_gulick at hotmail.com> To: lbo-talk <lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org> Cc: john_gulick at hotmail.com Sent: Tuesday, 30 December, 2008 14:19:15 Subject: [lbo-talk] threesome advice DH wrote: [this bounced because the entire contents of the digest issue were attached, bringing the length to 30513 bytes] JG writes: One would think that a length of 30513 bytes would be perfect for a threesome, at least if one subscribes to conventional heterocentric norms... _________________________________________________________________ It s the same Hotmail®. If by  same  you mean up to 70% faster. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_broad1_122008 ___________________________________ http://mailman.lbo-ta]]></description>
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  <author><![CDATA[Jordan Hayes]]></author>
  <pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:31:46 GMT</pubDate>
  <link>http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2008/2008-December/021635.html</link>
  <description><![CDATA[> And I completely missed this thread!  Gotta adjust my email filter-- You can always just subscribe to an RSS feed: http://search.lbo-talk.org/search/feed?msg=threesome :-) /jordan]]></description>
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  <author><![CDATA[John Gulick]]></author>
  <pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:19:15 GMT</pubDate>
  <link>http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2008/2008-December/021632.html</link>
  <description><![CDATA[DH wrote: [this bounced because the entire contents of the digest issue were attached, bringing the length to 30513 bytes] JG writes: One would think that a length of 30513 bytes would be perfect for a threesome, at least if one subscribes to conventional heterocentric norms... _________________________________________________________________ It s the same Hotmail®. If by  same  you mean up to 70% faster. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_broad1_122008]]></description>
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  <author><![CDATA[Miles Jackson]]></author>
  <pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:46:01 GMT</pubDate>
  <link>http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2008/2008-December/021629.html</link>
  <description><![CDATA[Doug Henwood wrote: > [this bounced because the entire contents of the digest issue were > attached, bringing the length to 30513 bytes] > > From: 123hop at comcast.net > Date: December 30, 2008 1:29:20 PM EST > To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org > Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] why I envy Tristan Taormino's job > > > > Well, since nobody asked, here's my only piece of threesome advice: > > If it's going to be two guys and a gal, pick two guys who are actually > interested in some sexual play together; otherwise, it's boring. > > Joanna > And I completely missed this thread!  Gotta adjust my email filter-- Miles]]></description>
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  <author><![CDATA[Doug Henwood]]></author>
  <pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:41:06 GMT</pubDate>
  <link>http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2008/2008-December/021627.html</link>
  <description><![CDATA[[this bounced because the entire contents of the digest issue were  attached, bringing the length to 30513 bytes] From: 123hop at comcast.net Date: December 30, 2008 1:29:20 PM EST To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] why I envy Tristan Taormino's job Well, since nobody asked, here's my only piece of threesome advice: If it's going to be two guys and a gal, pick two guys who are actually  interested in some sexual play together; otherwise, it's boring. Joanna]]></description>
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  <title><![CDATA[[lbo-talk] why I envy Tristan Taormino's job]]></title>
  <author><![CDATA[Doug Henwood]]></author>
  <pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 02:32:24 GMT</pubDate>
  <link>http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2008/2008-December/021586.html</link>
  <description><![CDATA[<http://fleshbot.com/5117197/three-is-the-magic-number-in-tristan-taorminos-latest-expert-guide > HARDCORE Three Is The Magic Number In Tristan Taormino's Latest "Expert Guide" By Lux Alptraum, 3:00 PM on Sat Dec 27 2008, 28,602 views We were a bit skeptical about the idea of an "expert guide" to  threesomes. Unlike blowjobs or handjobs, good threesome technique  isn't really something you can demonstrate it's more a learn by doing  type of thing. But since we've been impressed by the previous installments of the  Expert Guide series, we figured we'd give this one a shot. And, true  to form, Tristan impressed us with her efforts. Rather than setting  itself up as the end all, be all of threesomology, the "Expert Guide  to Threesomes" acts more as a general guide to group sex. In the educational intro, Tristan explains different threesome  configurations, lays out some basic rules, and goes over different  roadblocks and pitfalls encountered by couples looking to have a  threesome. Whil]]></description>
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  <title><![CDATA[[lbo-talk] Eliot Spitzer screws with his socks on]]></title>
  <author><![CDATA[Doug Henwood]]></author>
  <pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 14:23:45 GMT</pubDate>
  <link>http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2008/2008-March/005607.html</link>
  <description><![CDATA[[Long ago, Bob Dole was quoted in a Vanity Fair piece - by Gail  Sheehy maybe? - as saying that George H.W. Bush is the kind of guy  who "screws with his socks on." Evidently there are Dems who do this  too.] New York Post - March 23, 2008 <http://www.nypost.com/seven/03232008/news/regionalnews/ eliot_tipster_a_gop_swinger_103165.htm> SPITZER TIPSTER A GOP 'SWINGER' TOLD FBI OF HOOKER HABIT BACK IN NOV. By GINGER ADAMS OTIS GOV. SPITZER "Did it with his socks on." Four months before a hooker scandal brought down Eliot Spitzer,  controversial Republican operative Roger Stone tipped the FBI to the  governor's penchant for prostitutes. The information Stone provided was very detailed - right down to the  calf-length black socks Spitzer allegedly wore while bedding his paid  paramours. In a letter sent to the FBI on Nov. 19, Stone alleged that Spitzer  "used the service of high-priced call girls" while in Florida. Stone, a former henchman for President Richard Nixon who divides his  time b]]></description>
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  <title><![CDATA[[lbo-talk] Anarcho-Diary]]></title>
  <author><![CDATA[Dennis Perrin]]></author>
  <pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 18:31:37 GMT</pubDate>
  <link>http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2007/2007-July/014211.html</link>
  <description><![CDATA[ANARCHO-DIARY by Shuck Zilch The day began as it usually did, with me jerking off to MILF porn on my computer, a computer that's the result of the fascist military state I live under. But the porn was good, and after about six minutes, I was ready to take on The Man and all of his bullshit schemes. Walking down the street, I noticed a pig car parked about a block up from my apartment. Since I'm a very important anti-authoritarian, the pig was probably waiting for me so he could fuck with me spreading anarchism to the masses. Well, I'm too smart to fall for that shit. I took an alternate street, crouched down a bit, and went in the opposite direction. This totally confused the pig, because he didn't follow me. But he would be back to hassle me. That's what pigs do to us radicals. I went into a bodega to buy some juice, juice that's probably squeezed in some juice sweatshop somewhere by 12-year-old girls. But I was thirsty, and those girls would have to stage their own rebellion. I can't]]></description>
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  <title><![CDATA[[lbo-talk]  Armed and Queer]]></title>
  <author><![CDATA[Dwayne Monroe]]></author>
  <pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 13:44:00 GMT</pubDate>
  <link>http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2007/2007-April/006581.html</link>
  <description><![CDATA[Andy F posted: <http://alternet.org/rights/50039/> Pink Pistols: The Gay Group That's Getting Armed By Sarah Klein, Alternate 101. Posted April 3, 2007. An LGBT pro-gun organization that helps queer people fight back against hate crimes is challenging liberals and conservatives alike. [...] ................. Hmmm. Perhaps a friend of mine (let's call him Angelo) was an early adopter of this self defense through ballistics approach. A few years back he showed up at one of the loud parties in cozy houses my now globally scattered social circle used to throw pretty regularly. He gestured to our hostess: "honey, can you help me with something?"  Of course.  He asked me to come along. The three of us went upstairs to a bedroom.  'Angelo' closed the door. Our hostess, a bit warm and fuzzy from wine and music, said something about a threesome. That wasn't on the agenda. 'Angelo' opened his (quite nice) suit jacket and brought out a Desert Eagle semi-auto from its shoulder holster. "Dude!" I w]]></description>
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  <title><![CDATA[[lbo-talk] Brit political gossip]]></title>
  <author><![CDATA[Doug Henwood]]></author>
  <pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 17:55:53 GMT</pubDate>
  <link>http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2006/2006-February/002220.html</link>
  <description><![CDATA[At 1:01 PM +0000 2/2/06, popbitch wrote: >         >> Up shit creek  << >         Oaten story leaves bad taste in mouth > >     Mark Oaten has made his first appearance since >     the rent-boy story broke, and is vowing to >     save his marriage. Mrs Oaten is likely to >     poo-poo that idea however, when she find out >     the "utterly degrading act" alluded to in the >     papers was coprophilia. It seems that Mark, >     unlike most politicians, likes to eat shit! > >     And the lucky rent-boy who got to perform this >     task? Meet Kris. He describes himself as >     "straight forward, open-minded and easygoing. I >     am fascinated by the natural world and people >     who have something interesting to say. I enjoy >     anything safe and am totally versatile." > >     Kris' partner Tomash was the other member of the >     threesome. He is known as "London's top twink". >     Tomash says "I go to classical ballet classes. >     Despite this I am not camp." > >Kris (in his fo]]></description>
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  <title><![CDATA[[lbo-talk] Hill & Rupe - a new power duo?]]></title>
  <author><![CDATA[Carl Remick]]></author>
  <pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:49:05 GMT</pubDate>
  <link>http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2005/2005-June/012544.html</link>
  <description><![CDATA[>From: Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> > >New York Observer - June 15, 2005 > >... what a couple they'd make! For the 74-year-old native of Australia, an >embrace of Mrs. Clinton would be only the latest in a long string of daring >and (mostly) winning political plays. What?!  I thought Hillary was going steady with Newt.  Are they thinking of a threesome or something? Carl]]></description>
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  <title><![CDATA[[lbo-talk] Peeling the "Orange Revolution"]]></title>
  <author><![CDATA[Chris Doss]]></author>
  <pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2005 16:33:34 GMT</pubDate>
  <link>http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2005/2005-March/004431.html</link>
  <description><![CDATA[The eXile Peeling the Oranges By Kirill Pankratov (pkirill88 at hotmail.com ) Until recently, Ukraine wasn't much of a news item in most of the Western press. In fact, a country with one-third the population of Russia, and about one-fifth of its economy, it received barely one-thirtieth of the coverage of Russia in the US media. Then came the "Orange Revolution" -- and, boy, did it change everything. We're learning now that, unlike in the dark autocratic Russia, the flower of Ukrainian democracy was blossoming all throughout the 1990s, if only in the shadows. "Ukraine did not fight a war for ten years such as Russia is fighting in the North Caucasus. There was no shelling of government houses by tanks in Ukraine. Ukraine did not have the kind of privatization that Russia had. Luckily for Ukraine, it had no oil or gas which made it possible to corrupt the entire political elite in Russia. The situation there was quite different. It was easier there to create non-governmental organizatio]]></description>
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  <title><![CDATA[[lbo-talk] Nazi porn]]></title>
  <author><![CDATA[Eubulides]]></author>
  <pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2004 02:35:40 GMT</pubDate>
  <link>http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2004/2004-February/003098.html</link>
  <description><![CDATA[Porn und Drang The latest novel of Germany's hot young writer Thor Kunkel exposes the Nazis' previously unknown trade in pornographic films. Sounds like a guaranteed bestseller. So why has the book's publisher cancelled it and kicked up a literary storm? Luke Harding investigates Thursday February 12, 2004 The Guardian He is one of Germany's hottest young novelists. And, until last week, few in Germany's literary world doubted that Thor Kunkel's latest novel, Final Stage, was going to be anything but a rip-roaring success. The novel had all the right ingredients - sex, a lot of sex, Nazis, more Nazis, and a spectacular romantic finale. Furthermore, the book was based on original research carried out by Kunkel into one of the Third Reich's best-kept secrets - a series of pornographic films shot by the Nazis in the woods around Hamburg. Last week, however, Kunkel returned from a holiday in Amsterdam to discover that his publishing house had abruptly decided to cancel his novel two months]]></description>
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  <title><![CDATA[[lbo-talk] Oberlin College: Hell on Earth]]></title>
  <author><![CDATA[Carl Remick]]></author>
  <pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:24:30 GMT</pubDate>
  <link>http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2003/2003-November/027147.html</link>
  <description><![CDATA[>From: Liza Featherstone <lfeather32 at erols.com> > >... Travelling in Arkansas recently, I went drinking with a >travelling salesman, who tried to get me to accept Jesus as my personal >savior. When I politely declined, he tried equally persistently to persuade >me to come back to Missouri and have a threesome with him and his wife. No >thanks, I said, I'm married. "That don't mean nothin!" he objected. My >sense is he's not unusual, and that "traditional America" is a pretty crazy >place ... Well, there's nothing more traditionally American than a traveling-salesman joke.  Could use a better punchline though :) Carl _________________________________________________________________ Crave some Miles Davis or Grateful Dead?  Your old favorites are always playing on MSN Radio Plus. Trial month free! http://join.msn.com/?page=offers/premiumradio]]></description>
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  <title><![CDATA[[lbo-talk] Oberlin College: Hell on Earth]]></title>
  <author><![CDATA[mike larkin]]></author>
  <pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:20:51 GMT</pubDate>
  <link>http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2003/2003-November/027146.html</link>
  <description><![CDATA[At work, "traditional men" talk constantly of indulging men's clubs, off color movies, etc., and then condemn Clinton for his "moral depravity." They honestly don't get the hypocricy. When I was growing up in the late 70s, the men of the Parish Council at my Catholic Church would gather around on weekends in the church basement and watch blue movies. Almost all of them voted Republican. Liza Featherstone <lfeather32 at erols.com> wrote: I'm inclined to agree with Brian. Traditional Americans are far wilder than FrontPage thinks. Travelling in Arkansas recently, I went drinking with a travelling salesman, who tried to get me to accept Jesus as my personal savior. When I politely declined, he tried equally persistently to persuade me to come back to Missouri and have a threesome with him and his wife. No thanks, I said, I'm married. "That don't mean nothin!" he objected. My sense is he's not unusual, and that "traditional America" is a pretty crazy place, not so different from Oberlin Co]]></description>
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  <title><![CDATA[[lbo-talk] Oberlin College: Hell on Earth]]></title>
  <author><![CDATA[Dennis Perrin]]></author>
  <pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:17:52 GMT</pubDate>
  <link>http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2003/2003-November/027145.html</link>
  <description><![CDATA[> I'm inclined to agree with Brian. Traditional Americans are far wilder than > FrontPage thinks. Travelling in Arkansas recently, I went drinking with a > travelling salesman, who tried to get me to accept Jesus as my personal > savior. When I politely declined, he tried equally persistently to persuade > me to come back to Missouri and have a threesome with him and his wife. No > thanks, I said, I'm married. "That don't mean nothin!" he objected. My > sense is he's not unusual, and that "traditional America" is a pretty crazy > place, not so different from Oberlin College as its demogogues would like to > think. > > Liza Agreed. Growing up in Republican Indianapolis I knew that my parents (divorced, in two different worlds) were involved in some pretty wild scenes, some sexual, some booze and/or drug fueled. Their friends were, on the surface, straight-laced conservative folk, but after a few drinks . . . whew! They had The Flag in the front yard, weekend cookouts, voted for Repubs a]]></description>
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  <title><![CDATA[[lbo-talk] Oberlin College: Hell on Earth]]></title>
  <author><![CDATA[Liza Featherstone]]></author>
  <pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:03:08 GMT</pubDate>
  <link>http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2003/2003-November/027142.html</link>
  <description><![CDATA[I'm inclined to agree with Brian. Traditional Americans are far wilder than FrontPage thinks. Travelling in Arkansas recently, I went drinking with a travelling salesman, who tried to get me to accept Jesus as my personal savior. When I politely declined, he tried equally persistently to persuade me to come back to Missouri and have a threesome with him and his wife. No thanks, I said, I'm married. "That don't mean nothin!" he objected. My sense is he's not unusual, and that "traditional America" is a pretty crazy place, not so different from Oberlin College as its demogogues would like to think. Liza > From: Brian Siano <siano at mail.med.upenn.edu> > Reply-To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org > Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 12:20:33 -0500 > To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org, brian at briansiano.com > Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Oberlin College: Hell on Earth > > Doug Henwood wrote: > >> mike larkin wrote: >> >>> Hilarious. >>> >>> >>> <http://www.frontpagemag.com/articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=10633>http://www]]></description>
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  <title><![CDATA[[lbo-talk] Talk Dirty to Me (was: Nicknamania)]]></title>
  <author><![CDATA[Kelley]]></author>
  <pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2003 04:40:24 GMT</pubDate>
  <link>http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2003/2003-April/011312.html</link>
  <description><![CDATA[Sex Tips from Donald Rumsfeld Dear Secretary Rumsfeld: My friend told me you can't get pregnant if you have sex in a hot tub. Is that true? —Diane Macdonald, Sioux City, Iowa Secretary Rumsfeld: There is an awful lot of misinformation out there. Diane, the reality is that you can get pregnant if you have sex in a hot tub. Are hot tubs fun? Yes. Do hot tubs make you want to have sex? You bet. But anybody who believes that you can't get pregnant is simply uninformed, misinformed, or poorly informed, and does not belong in a hot tub. Dear Secretary Rumsfeld: My husband and I have an active love life, and I'm generally satisfied, but sometimes I'd like him to go "down there." —Kate Waterman, Enid, Oklahoma Secretary Rumsfeld: Down where? I'm here to answer legitimate questions about sex in a frank and candid way, but I'm not doing this just to waste my time. Do you mean your belly button? Your knees? Your toes? Boca Raton? Argentina? Dear Secretary Rumsfeld: My wife and I are happily marri]]></description>
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  <title><![CDATA["Support" the U.S. Armed Forces?.NO WAY!]]></title>
  <author><![CDATA[Chiang Ching]]></author>
  <pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2003 03:04:02 GMT</pubDate>
  <link>http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2003/2003-March/007529.html</link>
  <description><![CDATA[The RW received this commentary and felt it was important to publish it and to encourage others to circulate it and reprint it and to broadly discuss the points it raises. What is the real nature and purpose of the U.S. armed forces, and are they deserving of "support"? In reading a number of books about the U.S. military--including Making the Corps , by Thomas Ricks, and a number of other books which actually attempt to put forward a basically positive view of the U.S. armed forces--what comes through clearly is that these armed forces are not, and cannot be, a force for "liberation" but, on the contrary, are intended to be and are in fact an armed force of imperial conquest. In particular, what is striking is how the soldiers in these armed forces are encouraged and conditioned to see killing in warfare in the raw terms of physical and sexual assault. The widespread sexual assault and rape at the Air Force Academy, and similar outrages among the officer corps of the U.S. military, ar]]></description>
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  <title><![CDATA[Covert Action Quarterly]]></title>
  <author><![CDATA[Michael Pugliese]]></author>
  <pubDate>Sat, 21 Dec 2002 17:37:33 GMT</pubDate>
  <link>http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2002/2002-December/029186.html</link>
  <description><![CDATA[<URL: http://www.nettime.org/Lists-Archives/nettime-l-9807/msg00031.html > <nettime> Supporting documents from Terry Allen To: nettime-l at Desk.nl Subject: <nettime> Supporting documents from Terry Allen From: terry allen <tallen at igc.org> (by way of mf at mediafilter.org(MediaFilter)) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 22:50:58 -0400 Sender: owner-nettime-l at basis.Desk.nl CONTENTS:  -- WASHINGTON CITY PAPER ARTICLE ON FIRINGS "FASCIST LEFTIES" -- PUBLISHERS' TERMINATION LETTER --  CAQ STAFF'S 1st LETTER TO SUPPORTERS AND READERS AFTER FIRING -- PUBLISHERS' LETTER/POSITION PAPER NEWS ARTICLE IN THE WASHINGTON CITY PAPER, MAY 22-28, 1998, P.12. Fascist Lefties by Amanda Ripley "They who work in the mills ought to own them," Noam Chomsky wrote in a high-minded rant against corporate propaganda in the fall 1995 issue of CovertAction Quarterly (CAQ). That's the kind of pink tinge that characterizes many stories in the D.C.-based publication, which started out as a CIA watchdog newsletter but has ]]></description>
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  <title><![CDATA[reassurance]]></title>
  <author><![CDATA[Carl Remick]]></author>
  <pubDate>Tue, 23 Jul 2002 16:30:17 GMT</pubDate>
  <link>http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2002/2002-July/017769.html</link>
  <description><![CDATA[>From: Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> > >Doesn't this power trio inspire confidence? ><http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/020722/168/1w9uf.html>. > >Doug Yes, easily the most impressive threesome since Ernie Kovacs' Nairobi Trio. Carl _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com]]></description>
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  <title><![CDATA[Israeli and Palestinian Media Coverage of the Intifada/ The U.S., Israel, and Turkey "The True Axis of Evil"]]></title>
  <author><![CDATA[michael pugliese]]></author>
  <pubDate>Sun, 31 Mar 2002 18:05:27 GMT</pubDate>
  <link>http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2002/2002-March/007876.html</link>
  <description><![CDATA[A War of Words: Israeli and Palestinian Media Coverage of the al-Aqsa Intifada Saturday, December 1st, 2001 Palestinian Human Rights Monitoring Group "Now is the time to cool it” (Statement by Aidan White, General Secretary of the International Federation for Journalists, 20.10.2000) In October 2000, the International Federation of Journalists (IFJ) called on Israeli and Palestinian leaders to stop attempting to manipulate the media in the battle for public opinion inside and outside the region. Mr. White also called on journalists to ensure that they act professionally and do nothing to prejudice the intentions of other journalists in circumstances that are potentially dangerous for all. The al-Aqsa Intifada has provoked charges and counter charges of media bias and incitement. Israelis accuse the Palestinian media of inflaming the Palestinians with hatred against Israelis, while the Palestinians say the Israeli media are defending murder and the use of excessive force in response to ]]></description>
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  <title><![CDATA[Felix, Gilles, Luce, and the gang go boozing in Melbourne]]></title>
  <author><![CDATA[Doug Henwood]]></author>
  <pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2001 16:27:12 GMT</pubDate>
  <link>http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2001/2001-October/022896.html</link>
  <description><![CDATA[[via <nettime>] Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 12:45:20 +1000 From: n ik <fragments at va.com.au> fwd: from Tall Paul (a cleaner who writes for The Paper - http://www.thepaper.org.au amongst other things..) A True Story I was having a few quiet beers after work in the public bar of The Rising Sun hotel in West Footscray the other night, when lo and behold, Jean Baudrillard, Luce Irigaray, Paul Virilio and the ghosts of Felix Guattari and Gilles Deleuze stunbled in off the street. You could have heard a pin drop when this motley crew of French intellectuals invaded the inner sanctum of the pub, animated conversations about football, work and post structuralism stopped abruptly, even the pokies and the Stud testing machine seemed to cease their electronic din. Intellectual smarty pants from Fitzroy and St Kilda frequently deride Melbourne's industrial working class as a gaggle of boorish,illiterate,oafs. Yet we knew a terrible secret far more sinister than Ray Martin's wig or the little green me]]></description>
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  <title><![CDATA[Green nazis]]></title>
  <author><![CDATA[Chip Berlet]]></author>
  <pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2001 03:47:16 GMT</pubDate>
  <link>http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2001/2001-October/021841.html</link>
  <description><![CDATA[Hi, Well, recently I was flat out wrong about another site, so I respond with caution. If  http://www.nazi.org  is a parody, its too subtle. It looks more like a real variant of what is called Third Position fascism, although in this case it is merged with the national socialist version of libertarianism. Nothing new. We call them the Green Nazis, just like the heading here. Think of libertarian Strasserites. Madame Blavatsky and Ayn Rand in a threesome with Alfred Rosenberg. Exterminating "useless eaters" is part of this Neonazi philosophy. See: 'Ecology' and the Modernization of Fascism in the German Ultra-right - Janet Biehl http://www.spunk.org/library/places/germany/sp001630/janet.html Fascist Ecology - The "Green Wing" of the Nazi Party and its Historical Antecedents - Peter Staudenmaier http://www.spunk.org/library/places/germany/sp001630/peter.html And the big collection at: http://www.publiceye.org/Sucker_Punch/Clueless.html And note that for tactical reasons I am downplaying ]]></description>
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  <title><![CDATA[whore: class & class consciousness]]></title>
  <author><![CDATA[kelley]]></author>
  <pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2000 17:35:12 GMT</pubDate>
  <link>http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2000/2000-May/009763.html</link>
  <description><![CDATA[ahhh, yes, the article that annalee shoulda read--how legalizing prostitutions deglamorizes it into just another job...... sf life  April 26, 2000 A San Francisco whore in a Nevada brothel Classiness and class-consciousness clash in a tale of two cities. By Ann deLorenzo I'M SITTING IN the parlor of a legal brothel in Nevada. I'm the only one here who didn't get her nails done on Tuesday. Marta has red nails; Gina's are deep burgundy. They could be in a Lancôme ad at Nordstrom. When the bells ring I get into the lineup with 10 other girls. There are a few dark-haired women, a few with small breasts, but we're far outnumbered by tit jobs and platinum blonds. A few of the women look at me funny because when we're not in lineup, I read or write e-mail. I've been working in this brothel for the past week. The inspiration for this trip came from an acquaintance who told me she'd made$10,000 in two weeks. I was sold. Plus, I didn't have to worry about being busted. Since 1998 the S.F. vice s]]></description>
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  <title><![CDATA[Big Japanese banks set for fresh merger]]></title>
  <author><![CDATA[Ulhas Joglekar]]></author>
  <pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2000 01:22:46 GMT</pubDate>
  <link>http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2000/2000-March/005727.html</link>
  <description><![CDATA[Tuesday 14 March 2000 Big Japanese banks set for fresh merger By Kunio Inoue TOKYO: Another huge merger among big Japanese banks seems to be in the works, with Sanwa Bank Ltd looking set to join a planned tie-up between Tokai Bank Ltd and Asahi Bank Ltd, creating the world's third-biggest banking group by assets, local media reported on Monday. The threesome would become Japan's second-largest bank with combined assets of 103.7 trillion yen ($ 975.4 billion). Tokai and Asahi previously announced they will establish a joint holding company this October. Analysts said the addition of Sanwa, which the reports said could join them as early as April next year, would be a good match because all three were focusing on retail banking, but with complementary geographical bases. Sanwa is based in Osaka, western Japan, Tokai in Nagoya, central Japan, and Asahi in Tokyo. "It would be a strategic fit," said Nozomu Kunishige, a senior analyst at Lehman Brothers. Local media reported that the three b]]></description>
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  <title><![CDATA[pathetic]]></title>
  <author><![CDATA[kelley]]></author>
  <pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 04:53:05 GMT</pubDate>
  <link>http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/1999/1999-November/021096.html</link>
  <description><![CDATA[>hi babe >do you have a boyfriend >would you like to have a threesome with me and another >girl >i have her hot and ready to suck your pussy >maybe while shes doing that you can suck my dick off >later babe >craig heh.   just thought i'd share wit y'all.  what delights we girls get on this internet thingy. so who else got such a delight ?  elena?  michele?  kat?  katha?  i know he had you on his list too katha.  he was sending all of us dorky internet jokes that these nubile young boyz find so entertaining.  what a guy. >Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 20:25:49 -0800 (PST) >From: Craig Targett <ryback_79 at yahoo.com> >Subject: Re: chill >To: kelley <oudies at flash.net> > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Thousands of Stores.  Millions of Products.  All in one place. >Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com > >]]></description>
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  <title><![CDATA[methodological dualism &  hidden injuries of class]]></title>
  <author><![CDATA[Barbie]]></author>
  <pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 1999 22:16:48 GMT</pubDate>
  <link>http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/1999/1999-July/012573.html</link>
  <description><![CDATA[i'm sorry to go over-limit here, but godamn ken is pissing me off  yet again.  i absolutely *have* to argue with him, particularly since, according to lacanian/zizekian theory, as a woman, i'm an hysteric and my only question is "does he love me"  in turn,  ken, as a man, has another condition, the name of which i cannot recall--grandiose narcissism mebbe?-- but i think he continually asks himself, "do i love her"  all of this means that i go into fits of inarticulate rage and ken can't hear me but i yell anyway. excuse our Neurosis.  mebbe ange will make it a threesome? dream date ken informs: >The Slovene Lacanian School, in general, is attempting to >provide a detailed map of ideological structures within culture. > Key to this analysis is a critique of pure desire (in contrast to >Kant's critique of pure reasoning).  So if you run the gambit of >their writings, there is very little untouched... from popular >culture to philosophy to literature and performance art and, of >course, p]]></description>
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  <title><![CDATA[Doing Arianna]]></title>
  <author><![CDATA[Doug Henwood]]></author>
  <pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 1998 16:39:15 GMT</pubDate>
  <link>http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/1998/1998-October/008131.html</link>
  <description><![CDATA[Frances Bolton (PHI) wrote: > Thanks Doug. I'm the one who said I'd do Huffington for the revolution. >But I said I would only do it in a threesome with her and Camille Paglia. >Do you have Paglia's email as well? In any case, I will send >something to Huffington, and one the off chance I get some response, I >will pass it along to the list. Sorry, don't have Camille's email address - in fact, I think I read once that she doesn't do email. Her answering machine announcement is supposed to be a beaut though. We await any response you might get from Huffington. Doug]]></description>
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  <title><![CDATA[Doing Arianna]]></title>
  <author><![CDATA[Frances Bolton (PHI)]]></author>
  <pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 1998 04:22:09 GMT</pubDate>
  <link>http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/1998/1998-September/008108.html</link>
  <description><![CDATA[On Wed, 30 Sep 1998, Doug Henwood wrote: > There was some talk here recently of "doing" Arianna Huffington for the > revo. Fortunately for those interested in pursuing this subversive > strategy, I've come across her email address. Direct your billets doux to > <AriannaHuf at aol.com>. > Thanks Doug. I'm the one who said I'd do Huffington for the revolution. But I said I would only do it in a threesome with her and Camille Paglia. Do you have Paglia's email as well? In any case, I will send something to Huffington, and one the off chance I get some response, I will pass it along to the list. Frances]]></description>
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  <title><![CDATA[A cop hits on me]]></title>
  <author><![CDATA[Doug Henwood]]></author>
  <pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 1998 20:59:58 GMT</pubDate>
  <link>http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/1998/1998-August/006379.html</link>
  <description><![CDATA[Frances Bolton (PHI) wrote: >On Sun, 30 Aug 1998, Rakesh Bhandari, feeling butch, offers a challenge: > >> So who here is man enough to try to do Arianne Huffington or Camille >> Paglia or Geraldo's Republican pollster (the scrawny blond chick)  for the >> revolution? Whoever succeeds gets to be the BMOLBO. I know I would be >> impressed. > >Wow, I can smell the testosterone from here. What if the non-male LBO-ers >want to get into it?? I, for one, would do Paglia and Huffington, but only >in a threesome, and only if I got to be the top. But Vandana says hierarchy = patriarchy! Doug]]></description>
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  <title><![CDATA[A cop hits on me]]></title>
  <author><![CDATA[Rakesh Bhandari]]></author>
  <pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 1998 20:58:00 GMT</pubDate>
  <link>http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/1998/1998-August/006377.html</link>
  <description><![CDATA[My dear Frances, if you get into it, and you are on top on either of those lovlies, you certainly are helluva man enough to be BMOLBO. What a way to fill my LBO quota. Needless to say, it must be time to enjoy another big fat cigar. bye, rakesh On Sun, 30 Aug 1998, Frances Bolton (PHI) wrote: > > Wow, I can smell the testosterone from here. What if the non-male LBO-ers > want to get into it?? I, for one, would do Paglia and Huffington, but only > in a threesome, and only if I got to be the top. > > Frances]]></description>
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  <title><![CDATA[A cop hits on me]]></title>
  <author><![CDATA[Michael Eisenscher]]></author>
  <pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 1998 20:56:19 GMT</pubDate>
  <link>http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/1998/1998-August/006378.html</link>
  <description><![CDATA[At 04:44 PM 8/30/1998 -0400, Frances Bolton (PHI) wrote: >Wow, I can smell the testosterone from here. What if the non-male LBO-ers >want to get into it?? I, for one, would do Paglia and Huffington, but only >in a threesome, and only if I got to be the top. > >Frances > Frances, Is that threesome Pagla AND Huffington?  Now THAT exercises the imagination! Michael E.]]></description>
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  <title><![CDATA[A cop hits on me]]></title>
  <author><![CDATA[Frances Bolton (PHI)]]></author>
  <pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 1998 20:44:03 GMT</pubDate>
  <link>http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/1998/1998-August/006376.html</link>
  <description><![CDATA[On Sun, 30 Aug 1998, Rakesh Bhandari, feeling butch, offers a challenge: > So who here is man enough to try to do Arianne Huffington or Camille > Paglia or Geraldo's Republican pollster (the scrawny blond chick)  for the > revolution? Whoever succeeds gets to be the BMOLBO. I know I would be > impressed. Wow, I can smell the testosterone from here. What if the non-male LBO-ers want to get into it?? I, for one, would do Paglia and Huffington, but only in a threesome, and only if I got to be the top. Frances]]></description>
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